Posted on 07/23/2002 8:06:27 PM PDT by Texasforever
It's really the stupid PC insistence to not profile. There have been several reports of old ladies and men being 'random' searched, AL Gore was searched, etc.
It's more than urban legend, and as An Coulter said
“One hundred percent of the successful terrorist attacks on commercial airlines for 20 years have been committed by Arabs. When there is a 100 percent chance, it ceases to be a profile. It's called a 'description of the suspect.'”
In case it has escaped your aqttention, the USA, England, and many other countries ( the number 60, has been used for how many countries al Qaeda factions / sleeper cells are in )are our " enemies then. Shall we bomb ourselves
How many friends and / or family, did YOU lose on 9/11 ? Many FREEPERS lost loved ones, you know; so don't talk so damned cavilerly about innocents losing their lives ! You go and fight " your " way. Let the president and the military figure this one out, dear. You haven't the qualifications, nor the brains for it.
You don't have the vaugest idea how the USA is fighting this war on terror. What we aren't doing, is fighting it as though it were WW I, WW II, Korea, Nam, nor the Gulf War. Neither has it been the catastrophe of Somalia, Bosnia, ofr a " Wag the Dog " scenario.
It's not a laughing matter. IT's WAR! GET A CLUE!
In case it has escaped your aqttention, the USA, England, and many other countries ( the number 60, has been used for how many countries al Qaeda factions / sleeper cells are in )are our " enemies then. Shall we bomb ourselves
Do they or we knowingly have caves and roads for them to run their operations from? Did they let them hide there?
How many friends and / or family, did YOU lose on 9/11 ? Many FREEPERS lost loved ones, you know; so don't talk so damned cavilerly about innocents losing their lives ! You go and fight " your " way. Let the president and the military figure this one out, dear. You haven't the qualifications, nor the brains for it.
Make no mistake the ones who blew up the WTC and Pentagon know and understand what I just posted. BTW read the Bible to see how wars are fought. I was a trained sailor and a trained soldier so don't go there. I served 4 years on board one of the most powerfull weapons known to mankind. I was later a reservist soldier that was trained to do things that would not make you sleep well at night. I've forgotten more about warfare than you could ever begin to imagine. The rest of it pays me visits in my sleep even after 22 years and I was a peace time Vet.
You don't have the vaugest idea how the USA is fighting this war on terror. What we aren't doing, is fighting it as though it were WW I, WW II, Korea, Nam, nor the Gulf War. Neither has it been the catastrophe of Somalia, Bosnia, ofr a " Wag the Dog " scenario.
It isn't over yet. Used to be a non recongnized person could not approach a United States Naval vessel without a threat of deadly force. You see the sailors were taught to be diplomats or ambasadors of good will, A side show for the state department. Sailors lives were lost because MANY long established protocols were abandoned. There is only one way to fight a war. You identify the enemy. Which we have done. And then you go where they are and destroy them at all cost. We stopped using this manner to fight our enemies after WW2 which was about the time our institutes of higher learning started getting Marxist professors as well. Look on my profile and click on Origins of Political Correctness in my Book Marks a good read on just what that means. BTW written by Bill Lind who will be a speaker in Las Vegas at the FR convention.
Biblical type warfare hasn't been used, by Western nations, for centuries. You know who uses it ? al Qaeda, and that ilk. You could also have used what Rome did to Carthage. Why did you confine yourself to the Old Testement ?
It matters little, that you were a sailor and a soldier ( you were both ? ) a long time ago. You aren't acative now, weren't running things back then, and, since you haven't boasted about it, weren't trained , for warfare / leadership by any military collge. You're nothing but an " armchair general " and a little tinpot " expert " , with a Napolean complex.
YOU GET A CLUE AND TAKE A READING COMPREHENSION COURSE !
No, dear, we and England and germany and the Phillipines and France and Spain and oh so many other countries didn't " invite " the terrorists in, the terrorists didn't / don't live in caves in these countries ( except, perhaps in the Phillipines ); however, they were " harbored " and even funded , in part, by people in ALL of these nations. That's giving aid and comfort to the enemy and that YOU don't undrestand , even this, and call for destruction of all such nations, it is YOU who need a great deal more than just one " clue ".
If your posts are any indication of your knowledge and abilities, then it is patently obvious, that you couldn't fight your way, sucessfully, out of a wet paper bag ! Huffing and puffing and screaming for the massacer of ALL men. women, and children, the utter destruction of every nation, where the terrorists wre / are ( which, BTW, includes the USA, dear ! ) is lunacy.
Unlike you, I don't make protestations about what an expert I am, re military conflict. Do I want the enemy laid low ? You bet I do ! I loathe PC garbage and need no one to " explain " it to me. People I knew, died in the 9/11 attacks. I want blood, far MORE than you do. Unlike you, I trust this president, the military ( this isn't McNamarra and the idiots running Nam ! )and those in the field, far more than you, who imagines that all we need to do is have the military walk around, blowing trumpets, and then kill everyone in sight / make slaves ( yes, the ancient Hebrews made slaves of some of those , whom they captured in war ; learn some fact=ual history, dear ) of some of the women and children, afterwards.
Instead of a " clue", dear , get a grip ! LOL
Based on an unfounded belief system of fears that we will allow another Clinton or Gore steal another election and abuse their powers, again.
great article.
So.....you're praying, people are afraid of the government? Or you're praying the enemy has given up?
Or both?
First of all knock off the dear crap. How many active duty years did you do No Pardons? What do you know about NBC warfare no I'm not talking about the braodcasting network either. Yes I was both a sailor and a soldier. I saw death on the ship. Carriers go to sea people die even in peace time. You sound like a the ones who greeted our vets home by calling them names rather than thanking them. BTW are you so niave as to think women and children didn't die in the World Wars by our weapons? They in fact did and likely many many more than Nam, Korea, the Gulf War combined. You are very ignorant on what war is, how it is fought, and what it takes to do the job. I know men Soldiers to be exact who had to do that very thing to save the lives of their fellow troops. One was in the Guatamala raids {sp} to be exact. Others carry unneed guilt from places like Nam where Professor Spock was spewing his PC vile on the inhumane actions of soldiers.
Your knowledge on wars and how they are fough is limited indeed. It reaks of Political Correctness and is part of the problem not a long term solution.
We know the Middle East nations supporting terrorism and yet we do business with them. Good grief Saddam himself is paying rewards for terrorist acts. Thank you GHW Bush for your lack of guts to finish the job. And lets look at this statement you made
Biblical type warfare hasn't been used, by Western nations, for centuries. You know who uses it ? al Qaeda, and that ilk. You could also have used what Rome did to Carthage. Why did you confine yourself to the Old Testement?
It has been used up into the middle part of the 1900's and IT WAS US WHO DID IT REMEMBER?????? There was a bomb called Little BOY we dropped on Japan not once but twice??? Did it ask male or female or how old are you before it unleashed it's power? As for the Old Testament? It's words are still valid as they were. The difference is salvation through Grace rather than Law. Laws we could not fullfill. So does this mean we can toss the 10 Commandments as well?
I mentioned my service because you questioned my crendentials to discuss war and military matters. If you knew much about military matters especially Naval ones you would have seen my FR name is derived from that.
I take war very serious. I think if we ask a our troops to possibly lay down their lives we not tie their hands with PC stupidity as the have been for over 50 years with disasterous results from it. If the matter is serious enough to go to war over then declare that intention in Congress and be quick about it. Our responsibility is not to the other nations but to our own. Had we done the Gulf War correctly we would now have a sea and air base in the Gulf without having to make pathetic groveling deals with thug nations. Yea that's right IMO Iraq should be occupied U.S. Territory. Do we or do we not still have bases in Japan,Italy, & Germany? To our foolishness we gave up the PI's and China is moving in to fill the void there as well. No you are living in some dulision that wars must be nice and fought by some rules written BTW by those who would cheer and celibrate our fall.
I'm proud anti UN and I think Private New deserves the Medal of Honor. I think the U.N. should be given 30 days to vacate our soil. I see no good ever coming from it past the date of May 14, 1948 if that means anything to you. After that date its usefullness was over. That was it's last significant act which will alter the course of this world forever. An event foretold around 2600 years ago.
The best way to avoid any war or any attack is to make you vengance swift and complete. Don't act in haste but act will full intention of victory. Right now in Afganastan we still are not safe. The Bombs dropped in December should have been the ones dropped 9/12/2001. By the time we asked, announced, plead. and begged the U.N.., Middle east Arabic states, and everyone else he likely may have escaped. This is a man like Saddam bent on getting WMD capabilities. I say don't let them get a chance. Each day they breath or remain in power puts us one day closer to an attack of which likely will make 9/11 small in comparassion. Sorry but U.N. sanctioned PC warfare is the farest thing on my mind at this point.
agreed
This so-called war on terror lost its momentum and credibility when its leader went weak and did not permit the arrest and conviction of Arafat. That demonstrated to the world that Bush is just playing games and this war is really about something else, like say the NWO and destroying America.
The leader of this unconstitutional war lost credibility by not closing the borders to the hoards of illegal aliens, along with potential terrorists, flooding into the USA.
How can the government and its minions demand patriotism and vigilance from the citizens when they don't care themselves?
Nice writing...you nailed the problem right here. Immediately after 911, and then the Anthrax scares, people would've accepted (indeed expected) some real quick action...close the borders...remove illegals...close shop to check industries, transportation, set up emergency procedures.
Whoever ordered the planes grounded could've well have saved us from total chaos. The stock market being closed for a week didn't do the damage that the erosion by events since then. The "spend, spend, spend" mentality is going to have a lot of people paying off debt now.
Dramatic events require dramatic action. What we've seen is a lot of incremental stuff with people just vying for political advantage. And other events overtaking the terrorist threat. It isn't good.
Well said.
Any country that hosts a terrorists group that strikes America must know that we will consider it as if the government itself struck- unless they hand over the terrorists pronto.
As for your barbary pirates analogy, I did not know that the government was suspending civil liberties and imposing growing police state powers on Americans in response to that crisis!
I must have missed the constitutional REQUIREMENT for congress to exercise its POWER to declare war before a state of war exists. Could you point it out to me? Thanks.
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