[tpaine]

Because I'm trying to make a point here. However, I'm not about to teach an entire course in Constitutional law to do it, so I'd like to find out what you do know. And then we can proceed from there.

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I've argued the 14th here on FR with better men, and lawyers, than you 'general'.
- Make your point, and spare me your posturing about teaching.

[general_re]

Obviously you missed some fairly significant cases in those arguments. I'm not here to argue philosophy - if you want to discuss how you think the 14'th should have been interpreted, or some other clause should have been interpreted, then be my guest. But you give up the right to make airy-fairy philosophical arguments when you start talking about actual history and how things actually were...