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To: Charles_Bingley
In other words, The 14th amendment did what our modern Liberals warn us about in school: amend the Bills of Rights and and we lost that protection from a tyrantical, central government.......So we only have right to bear arms now, because the members of Congress don't have the votes to pass gun removal.

For all your admitted faults in writing, I agree with you, Bingley. Your thinking is sound, which is more than can be said of many who post here.

120 posted on 07/23/2002 11:24:14 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: Twodees
In other words, The 14th amendment did what our modern Liberals warn us about in school: amend the Bills of Rights and and we lost that protection from a tyrantical, central government.......So we only have right to bear arms now, because the members of Congress don't have the votes to pass gun removal.


For all your admitted faults in writing, I agree with you, Bingley. Your thinking is sound, which is more than can be said of many who post here. -2dd -


Perhaps you should both READ what is posted here.
The 14th removes none of the protections state have from feds. It only guarantees that individual constitutional rights will be honored by both state & federal government, as I said at #59:

The priviliges & immunities clause was being violated by states after the civil war, - [IE -- former slaves were being denied the right to own guns] - under the mistaken Marshal Court doctrine that the first ten amendments only limited the federal government.
The 14th was ratified to correct this flaw, and by further defining that the rights included those to 'life, liberty, or property', in effect expanded/defined the meaning of 'unenumerated rights' as per the 9th.

Thus, the 14th deprived states of only one 'power' they mistakenly thought they had. - That of ignoring the bill of rights.
--- States should be in the forefront of the battle to fight excess federal powers. Thay they are not is a failure of our political system. - Not of the constitution, - or of the 14th.

130 posted on 07/23/2002 12:55:29 PM PDT by tpaine
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