Sept. 11 Widow Fights to Stay in U.S.

New York Post / Fox News ^ | 07/22/2002 | NYP Staff

[reg45]

This story has been posted before (Nov-2001), but I think it should be revisited.

In my opinion the bureaucrat who said

'Your husband has expired and so has your right to stay in this country,'

should be fired or assigned to processing visas for polar bears in Nome, Alaska.

[tenderstone jr.]

Which tower did Atta hit? Imagine the INS giving a student visa to Atta, but not the the wife of a man he killed when he flew a plane into the World Trade Center.

How would giving her a green card set a dangerous precedant? Didn't Gephardt just say he wanted to legalize 3 million Mexicans? Maybe if she had been Middle Eastern or Hispanic she would be allowed to stay. But letting a white person stay probably would set a dangerous precedant.

[Cachelot]

should be fired or assigned to processing visas for polar bears in Nome, Alaska.

And flogged. Don't forget flogged. There's altogether too little flogging of American officials.

As for the widow, I imagine that if she'd just convert to Islam, or legally change her name to "Atta", she'd have her citizenship on a silver platter.

[KS Flyover]

Earlier post: Widow's Torment

British mom Deena Gilbey, with Mason, 7 (center), and Max, 4.

[tenderstone jr.]

She and Paul had lived in the United States for 10 years, and their children, Mason, 7, and Max, 4, were both born here.

Over half of the births in Los Angeles county hospitals are to mothers who are in the country illegally. The children are American citizens at birth, and the INS doesn't deport parents who are taking care of children who are American citizens.

I don't understand how this case is any different from what happens everyday in southern California. I just fail to see the dangerous precedant being set here.

[scholar]

'Your husband has expired and so has your right to stay in this country,' "

This is just another example of how bizarre this system has become. The INS wants to throw this lady out of the country while illegals come across our southern border every day and we are supposed to support them. I really don't know how much more of this I can stand.

[dr_who]

Dangerous? Don't think I see a dangerous "precedant" either. Stupid precedent? Yes!

[reg45]

Sorry for the double post - I tried searching on "Deena Gilbey" and found no hits before I posted the story. Even so, this story just cannot get enough exposure.

[Bahbah]

I wonder if we can find out who this nameless and faceless (and just disgusting) bureaucat is. That would be interesting.

[tenderstone jr.]

Dick Gephard at the La Raza convention: "There are probably millions of immigrants in this country who have done everything we've asked them to do. They've worked, they've stayed out of trouble, they've obeyed the laws, they've helped their families, and they would like an opportunity."

So why would this woman and her family not qualify?

Gephardt's proposal would apply to about 3 to 4 million undocumented immigrants. She said about 60 percent to 75 percent of those would be Hispanic, while many of the rest would be Asian.

I think this explains it.

[elbucko]

I don't understand how this case is any different

She has used too much sun screen.

[glory]

This type of stuff is exactly why I keep urging my mother to get her citizenship. She is a brit on a permanent resident status. Just reapplied for the newer green cards(hers was from the 60's) and since then she's divorced from my dad and her kids are grown. I should add in the 31 yrs she's been here she has NEVER accepted a public handout save for a couple weeks of unemployment in the 80's when the company she worked for closed shop. She was employed again shortly thereafter. These types of stories make me nervous, but if they pull this with her, I will be on here looking to get some freeper help at making a stink. This type of blatent discrimination against LEGAL immigrants of European decent who've been in this country long term should be exposed especially vs. the special treatment our neighbors tot he south are getting.

[Cachelot]

I wonder if we can find out who this nameless and faceless (and just disgusting) bureaucat is. That would be interesting

We probably can. Shouldn't be too difficult. But probably pointless - the Bush administration has become as bad as the Clinton administration, if not worse. And when examined without the mindless "trust at all cost" syndrome, Bush shows himself to be a consistent liar. He also "bonds" with the Saudi royals. And pushes an agenda in the ME that can be aimed at nothing else but the removal of Israel. Not to mention the fact that the Patriot act and the stuff in the works now is going to lock the country down tighter than all of Clinton's executive orders combined if he had gotten to activate them.

Here's a good project for a rainy day (and there'll be some rainy days, believe me): go and get the worst-case Clinton EO's. Compare with what is now in the works as law. Include what I saw here just a little while ago: that they're taking aim at revising the Posse Comitatus.

[Bahbah]

You may well be right, Cachelot. Sometimes I tilt at windmills and every once in while, I get a little tiny victory. Every once in a while, I think that we are losing the big battle, but I don't want to give up.

[Slyfox]

I can't believe that this hero's wife is still being treated like crap.

[He Rides A White Horse]

This is just another example of how bizarre this system has become. The INS wants to throw this lady out of the country while illegals come across our southern border every day and we are supposed to support them. I really don't know how much more of this I can stand.

If she were a Muslim cheering 9-11, she would have to stay so as not to offend their 'sensibilities'.

[henderson field]

Giving the INS a brain would set a dangerous precedent.

[Brian Allen]

<< I wonder if we can find out who this nameless and faceless (and just disgusting) bureaucat is. >>

As one who has spent days and months and years sitting around "justice"/INS halls of doom waiting on their pleasure, I can tell you that almost every last one of the moronic, envy-motivated and hatred and rage-driven, horrible, hatefilled, loathesome and fearsome anti-American bastards is as frightful as that "nameless and faceless [And just disgusting] bureaucat."

[healey22]

Well, it seems that Attorney General Ashcroft and INS nitwit James Ziglar have more pressing priorities, such as releasing criminal illegal aliens into our communities that hop, skip and jump over the border. It appears that this womens husbands heroic efforts are not as important as pandering to the illegal aliens. Plus, her pigmentation is just a shade to light. Diversity is our strength. /sarcasm

There is a fax at NumbersUsa.com to express your outrage at these two nitwits for releasing these crimninals into our commuities.

Immigrants freed in Tulsa at feds' request
The Oklahoman
July 18, 2002
The Associated Press

TULSA -- Sheriff's deputies detained then released 18 suspected illegal immigrants Wednesday at the request of federal immigration authorities, the department said.

A deputy stopped a van about 3:30 a.m. along Interstate 244 near downtown Tulsa for a missing taillight and found the immigrants from Mexico inside, Capt. Bill Bass said.

Two of the immigrants, including one who had a Texas driver's license but said he was an illegal alien, were driving the other 16 Mexican nationals from Houston to New York or Chicago, Bass said.

"They had no documentation whatsoever," Bass said. "They all admitted they didn't have green cards."

Bass said deputies contacted the Immigration and Naturalization Service, who told them to detain all 18. After two hours, the INS asked the department to let them all go, Bass said.

"They said they didn't want them and asked us to release them," Bass said, adding that he was dissatisfied with the INS explanation.

The INS regional office in Dallas did not immediately return a phone call.

Bass said deputies "have no clue" where the immigrants, all males including three juveniles, went after their release. The 16 allegedly being transported told deputies they had been in the country about 24 hours, he said.

Bass said one of the immigrants had a Maryland driver's license, but it had been suspended long ago and was held together with tape.

The department will present its findings to the U.S. Attorney's office in hopes of initiating an investigation, he said.