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People who have never done charity work are really missing out on the way you feel after doing it.

But, if you feel good by doing it, how can it be self sacrifice?

That's the way I reconcile the charity work I do.

Self sacrifice is doing things that you hate because you are told it is for the "greater good."

[BADROTOFINGER]

But, if you feel good by doing it, how can it be self sacrifice?

This is where Rand kind of sets the context for discussion about her philosophy. Being an avid capitalist (kind of myopically in my opinion, if myopically is a real word) sets the tone of the arguement in the terms of "whats in it for me?". Charity work is self-sacrifice in the sense that you are not being monetarily paid for it. As religeous people, we dont necessarily think as capitalists 24/7, the way Rand thought that we should. That is why you and I (if I may be so presumptuous) dont necessarily think of it as self-sacrifice, because we recieve a reward that Rand, unfortunately, didnt recognize as a reward. And it was HER loss, in my opinion...JFK

[mamaduck]

May I add: Sacrifice is giving up something of a lesser nature for something of a higher nature. AND: there is no true "selflessness" because any sacrifice you make - see above - AND if you do it to "make the world a better place", well you are living in that world aren't you?

Sit in a cave until you all you desire is to sit in a cave and you become desireless . . .