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And we dont need to get into how the old south felt about Jews.

And we dont need to get into how the old south felt about Jews.

Actually that's one thing they weren't too bad about. Case in point: Judah Benjamin.

-Eric

or about how the North felt about the IRISH!

don't EVEN dare to start that little jab!

And we dont need to get into how the old south felt about Jews.

Judah Benjamin served in the Confederate Cabinet throughout the War. The first Jew in the U.S. Cabinet wasn't appointed until 1898. I went to a Catholic H.S. in Queens and heard the epithets "Jew Bastard" and "Nigger" more times than I'd care to remember. If I had to guess, I say there was more rancor for Jews who were envied than for Blacks who were disdained.

And we dont need to get into how the old south felt about Jews.

The Brains of the Confederacy

And we dont need to get into how the old south felt about Jews.

Oh please, enlightened one, do tell us how the Old South felt about the Jews.

Now wait just one minute there skippy, just what "credible" source did you get that from? I happen to be a member of the oldest synagouge in the western hemisphere. Do you know where it is? Hint...it's not in New York, Boston, or Philadelphia. It's a stone's throw away from the old market in Charleston, South Carolina. Members of my family have been worshipping at the temple there for just a little over 300 years. Jews have long been respected of Southern society, even though our ways are different. It was our ships who captured pirates Stede Bonnet and Edward Teach(Blackbeard) off the Carolina coast. It was our money and institutions that helped breath life into the cotton, tobacco, and indigo trade. It was our gold and investments that went so far to help establish a fledgling CSA government. It was also thousands of Jews who served as officers in the South Carolina calvary and navy units. You could count the numbers of Jews who served in Union units on your personal extremities and still not have to use your toes. I'll leave you with the Jewish prayer delivered to Confederate soldiers and an excerpt from the diary of Confederate head chaplain and Jew, Joseph Goldsmith. I'll be waiting for the retraction of your unfounded statement too. Apologies all around for the long post.

This prayer was composed by Rev. Max Michelbacher of Congregation Beth Ahabah, Richmond, Virginia, and distributed to Jewish Confederate soldiers.

Shemang Yisroel, Ad-nay El-hainoo, Ad-noy Achod!

Oh G-d of the Universe! Although unworthy through my manifestold transgressions, I approach the seat of thy mercy, to crave thy favor, and to seek thy protection. I supplicate thy forgiveness, O most merciful Father, for the many transgressions and the oft repeated disobedience, which cause Thee to command destruction over me. Behold me now, O my Father, supplicating Thy protection! Thou who art near when all other aid faileth! O spare me, guard me from the evil that is impending!

This once happy country is inflamed by the fury of war; a menacing enemy is arrayed against the rights, liberties and freedom of this, our Confederacy; the ambition of this enemy has dissolved fraternal love, and the hand of fraternity has been broken asunder by the hands of those, who sit now in council and meditate our chastisement, with the chastisement of scorpions. Our firesides are threatened; the foe is before us, with the declared intention to desecrate our soil, to murder our people, and to deprive us of the glorious inheritance which was left to us by the immortal fathers of this once great Republic.

Here I stand now with many thousands of the sons of the sunny South, to face the foe, to drive him back, and to defend our natural rights. O Lord, G-d of Israel, be with me in the hot season of the contending strife; protect and bless me with health and courage to bear cheerfully the hardships of war.

O L-rd, Ruler of Nations, destroy the power of our enemies! "Grant not the longings of the wicked; suffer not his wicked device to succeed, lest the exalt themselves. Selah. as for the heads of those that encompass me about, let the mischief of their own lips cover them. Let burning coals be cast upon them; let them be thrown into the fire, into deep pits, that they rise not up again." (Psalm 140). Be unto the Army of this confederacy, as thou were of old, unto us, thy chosen people-- Inspire them with patriotism! Give them when marching to meet, or, overtake the enemy, the wings of the eagle-- in the camp be Thou their watch and ward-- and in the battle, strike for them, O Almighty G-d of Israel, as thou didst strike for thy people on the plains of Canaan--guide them O L-rd of Battles, into the paths of victory, guard them from the shaft and missile of the enemy. Grant that they may ever advance to wage battle, and battle in thy name to win! Grant that not a standard be ever lowered among them! O L-rd, G-d, Father, be thou with us!

Give unto the officers of the Army and of the Navy of the Confederate States, enterprise, fortitude and undaunted courage; teach them the ways of war and the winning of victory. Guard and preserve, O L-rd, the President of the Confederate States and all officers, who have the welfare of the country truly at heart. Bless all my fellow-citizens, and guard them against sickness and famine! May they prosper and increase!

Hear me further, O L-rd, when I pray to Thee for those on earth, dearest to my heart. O bless my father, mother, brothers and sisters. (if married: my wife and children.) O bless them all with earthly and heavenly good! May they always look up to Thee, and may they find in Thee their trust and strength.

O L-rd, be with me always. Show me the way I have to go, to be prepared to meet Thee here and hereafter.

My hope, my faith, my strength are in Thee, O L-rd, my G-d, forever-- in Thee is my trust. "For thy salvation do I hope, O L-rd! I hope for Thy salvation, O L-rd! O L-rd, for Thy salvation do I hope!" Amen! Amen!

Shemang Yisroel, Ad-noy El-hainoo, Ad-noy Achod!

-from the diary of Joseph Goldsmith:
"Well, gentlemen, as far as I am concerned I will give my consent, but must refer the matter to the Adjutant and Inspector-General. Whatever he does, I will sanction." He thereupon wrote his endorsement on the petition, and Mr. Michelbacher and I took it up to General Cooper, who, like Mr. Seddon, received us kindly, and with great interest discussed the proposition with us. He would gladly, he said, grant the furloughs, but, "gentlemen," he added, "look, we have here a roster of all our soldiers, and we know, as far as possible from their names, how many of them belong to your religious denomination, and astonishing as it is that we count about 10,000 to 12,000 Jews who are serving in our Army. Now, should I grant the furloughs you request, you will readily see, that for the time being it would perhaps disintegrate entire commands in the field and might work to a bad effect; besides, the commanders of the different army corps should certainly be consulted. On the whole it would be impractible, as you, Goldsmith (turning to me), will readily acknowledge. In fact," he pleasantly added, "you will admit that if your forefathers had fought Titus on the Sabbath Day during the siege of Jerusalem, they most certainly would have beaten him. You see, therefore, I cannot conscientiously grant your request."

-Sandflea-

P.S. Hitler was a copycat: -General Ulysses S. Grant's General Order 11, signed on December 17, 1862. As Military Governor of newly conquered Civil War territory, he had issued the order in Holly Springs, Mississippi, mandating the total expulsion of "the Jews, as a class" from an area corresponding with what is today Northern Mississippi, Kentucky and Western Tennessee within "twenty four hours," without trial or hearing.