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To: BJungNan
"That is absolute BS! This is a board for thoughtful debate. Back up that statement."

Well, well. Those are strong words, and the second time in a week that I have been commanded to do one or the other thing by thoughtful posters here. Being somewhat independent, I decline such suggestions. I will, however, offer a suggestion or two to you.

If you only get your information from the internet, and I know a lot of thoughtful posters do, at least avail yourself to a good search engine and look into Mr. Traficant's history. Did you know that he was a sheriff in Mahoning County, Ohio before he was elected to congress? That he was accused of taking bribes from the mob? That he was acquitted of those charges, but had to pay the IRS for the money anyway?

Granted, maybe you weren't around in the early 80s, but none of us were around during the Civil War. That does not prevent some from becoming authorities on that period.

43 posted on 07/22/2002 1:29:21 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: billhilly
Well, well. Those are strong words, and the second time in a week that I have been commanded to do one or the other thing by thoughtful posters here Being somewhat independent, I decline such suggestions. I will, however, offer a suggestion or two to you.

If you only get your information from the internet...

At the same time you are refusing to back up your statements, you are assigning a position to the opposition in a debate that the opposition does not hold. Please, can we stick with the facts and provide some.

...and I know a lot of thoughtful posters do, at least avail yourself to a good search engine and look into Mr. Traficant's history. Did you know that he was a sheriff in Mahoning County, Ohio before he was elected to congress? That he was accused of taking bribes from the mob? That he was acquitted of those charges, but had to pay the IRS for the money anyway?

That is a pretty broad statement. You need to back this up. There are a lot of people that have run across the IRS and had to pay them. This hardly rises to the level of the charges you leveled against Traficant in your original post.

Granted, maybe you weren't around in the early 80s, but none of us were around during the Civil War. That does not prevent some from becoming authorities on that period.

You seem to be claiming to be an authority on the history of Traficant? So far, I have not seen anything from you that would indicate you are. Being on this earth for the last 40 to 75 years does not an expert make. When you throw out charges like you have, you need to be ready to back them up - at least in this forum.

Again, this is supposed to be a thoughtful forum. Back up your statments.

59 posted on 07/22/2002 10:55:04 AM PDT by BJungNan
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