Recommendations of the Task Force on Earth Resources and Population (George H. Bush, Chairman)

Congressional Record | July 8, 1970 | George H. Bush's Task Force

[rdb3]

Last I checked, George H. W. Bush was no longer President, and we have 8 years worth of another since he's been in office. So "leopard spots" and "Rockerfeller Republicans" have virtually nothing to do with it.

This was a posting of something that was printed 30+ years ago.

What's the angle?

[rdb3]

I like things to make sense.

So do I, but in your reply here, you're bouncing around like a pinball.

Can you rephrase this, please?

[Askel5]

I can kind of see it. Wedging open the door with Sons to carry on the family name or inherit the Property.

(After all, It's the Economy, Stupid.)

But I still wonder whether that's just a way to appeal to human nature (being made in God's image and prizing the first born son) or whether it also is part and parcel of the State's interest in males over females.

For if the State were interested in some parity, it would seem China would force folks to keep a certain amount of girls rather than look the other way as folks abort, abandon or kill their female children to obtain a boy. They don't seem to have any problems with an excruciatingly, overwhelmingly male population.

For exactly what purposes it's hard to say. Fewer female definitely puts the brakes on procreation, beefs up the military with real muscle and encourages the homosexuality that is the State's ideal in many respects. I don't know. Still thinking about that one.

If I manage to dig up anything resembing Chicom encouragement of females, we'll see if there's a clue there.

[Askel5]

I'm more than happy to bring you up to date with consistent GOP actions in comport with these findings and Kissinger's 1974 "Abortion is vital to the solution" defense memorandum. (Lots of stuff in that thread, as linked, to underscore how the GOP right-to-life movement is a "one step forward, three steps back" sort of thing.)

I'm getting to the Source (which happens to be GOP) of why that is, that's all.

For instance, the line about "predetermination of sex" would seem to be the foundation on which Bush could argue that -- having "Excess" human embryos for just such a reason, wanting a Male instead of a Female child -- our State was somehow obliged to make best use of same rather than just throw the unimplanted ones in the trash where they belonged.

Don't expect me to fall for all the Potemkin pro-life stuff that is anti-abortion license plates (get a bumper sticker already) or "Parental Consent" legislation that only obtains a properly defined Square One, fasttracks minor abortions and ends up the basis for court-ordered minor abortions sans parental knowledge, much less consent.

That's just so much sound and fury geared toward making us chase our tails as we wonder how it is the State steadily progresses along "leftist" lines with regard to Human Life and the Environment.

[Itzlzha]

Perhaps that certain candidates with an (R) after their name cannot win when their REAL agendas are revealed, so the must use subterfuge (that means they are secretly tricking us...) to gain power.

I look at what the results are, not what their "moving lips" say...unlike some (R) kool-aide swallowers on FR.

If Barney Frank put an (R) after his name to get elected, Karl Rove, and some here would be saying "Never mind what he stands for...VOTE (R) ALWAYS! We NEED to retake (X)!".

Nevermind HOW they vote, or what they support...or even who they vote WITH...that (R) is ALL that certain starry-eyed folk see.

Does THIS answer your question?

[rdb3]

Does THIS answer your question?

Ummm... No, it doesn't.

What's your angle?

[independentmind]

Askel5, are you aware that probably a majority of posters on FR see nothing wrong with Bush Sr.'s thinking? Don't let dissatisfaction with the Bush family cloud the real issues at stake here. Do you think that the country would be better off with Gore as president?

[Askel5]

If I could, I'd be pointing to someone else besides the Bush family members to underscore inherently immoral and "leftist" GOP policies.

I'm sick to death of being pinned as some "Bush Hater" by the Cult of Personality around here simply because members of the Bush family have been charged with the most critical points of convergence on these issues.

I'll thank you not to take a page from Howlin analyze me as having a problem with the Bush family.

As for most of the posters on this forum's agreeing with "The Bush Family" (as well as the Republican Research Task Force and the Task Force on Earth Resources and Population) ... I suspect that's part and parcel of their stated intent to EDUCATE folks in this regard lest the State be forced to implement these policies for an ignorant populace's failure to Choose same.

[Askel5]

My "angle" is to break through the fog of your 30 years' conditioning (from birth, it would seem) and point out for you the source of our Kinder, Gentler implementation of the selfsame objectives Chicoms seek with regard to population control and "recycled Reds" (as Greens) seek with regard to putting the Earth first.

Did you read the article? Are you clear on the proposals here for the State to decide where we live and how many children we have by using coercion masquerading as Education and Information to condition our Choices?

They're quite clear about the fact the State has some obligation to enforce these "moral" principles should the population at large remain ignorant of their "nonjudgmental" data.

I particularly like the part where -- because human ingenuity and respect for life has resulted in the eradication of disease and longer lives -- it is ALSO our "moral" obligation to take steps to intervene and reduce birth rates so as to keep to what the Experts have decided is our Optimum Population.

This is wicked stuff. The only reason it's so namby-pamby rambling is because it's being spouted by Well-Intentioned useful idiots who have not the abject clarity of the militant atheist communists with whom they have share certain ultimate objectives regarding Humans and Resources as well as an essential disregard for the sanctity of human life or the liberty of the individual.

The truth of our self-destruction is out there. Here's but a portion of it. The illustrious GOP Task Forces spouting forth the Talking Points of gramscian-marxists who've destroyed us from within.

[Askel5]

Do you think that the country would be better off with Gore as president?

Gore wasn't even trusted to carry off our moral war in Serbia.

You think he'd have managed to double the NIH's budget overnight, approve ESCR, obtain special new veils of privacy for the Executive Branch or proceed with some unsettling PATRIOT Act style war-time provisions without extreme scrutiny and criticism from the GOP?

We're foxed.

[rdb3]

I see. Well, FWIW, I'm steadfastly pro-life. I'm 30 and have yet to have a child of my own, although I do have a stepson.

But rdb4 will be coming shortly.

[independentmind]

Oops, was I being overly analytical?

I have my own doubts about some of the Bushes; but I still think that they're better than the Gores.

Here's my own thinking on the subject:

You can't fight the pro-choice crowd by merely talking about abortion. Support for abortion is the consequence of a series errors which have to be addressed before you can realistically expect to move opinion on the abortion or population control issues.

I will see if I can drop in a link here which I think addresses the heart of the matter.

[Demidog]

Can you figure out where the pre-determination of sex fits in?

This is the beginning of a "one child per family" plan. In the US however, they're going to allow you to chose what sex your child will be. Isn't that big of them?

By the way, small families make for ultimately controlable subjects. Big, strong families fight back.

[Demidog]

I bet I can find some great pro-life stuff Al Gore back in his early political career....positions change over time.

But I bet you can't find any anti-abortion stuff from Daddy Bush.

[Demidog]

According to the 14th amendment it isn't personhood that's important. It's citizenship.

[Askel5]

You will please forgive my exasperation with perpetually having all my posts (well, the ones that inevitably mention a member of the Bush family) as somehow disloyal to the Bushes or indicative of some fixation on the family.

Abortion is NOT the key issue of this piece. They merely lay the groundwork for legal abortion (as they do the manufacture of Excess or Unwanted human embryos).

I thought this was a very nice COMPREHENSIVE treatment of the essentially materialistic view which jibes perfectly with the militant atheist (or communist) model of Resources and Human Life.

Goes a long way toward buttressing my repeated notion that communist totalitarians and soulless capitalists have elected to split the baby the eugenicists are birthing for them.

I look forward to your link.

[Askel5]

Gotcha.

And, in light of our Declaration, are citizens created or born?

[Askel5]

But I bet you can't find any anti-abortion stuff from Daddy Bush.

Sure you can.

I can even quote George W. Bush on his belief that life begins at conception.

Whoop-tee-doo.

I guess the life must first pass the test of Implantation (for purposes of damages should a pregnant wife want to sue for unlawful death or collect from her OBgyn for failure to abort), and then be born before that life is properly a Person and possessed of Almighty Citizenship.

Thank God we have an Enlightened populace that understands the compromises with "Personal Convictions" necessary for a just democracy and freedom for all ... full-person Citizen.

[Jhoffa_]

Despite the increased interest regarding this problem, there is still a vast number of Americans who are unfamiliar with even the most essential understanding of this potentially dangerous population growth rate.

This is aparently lost on government as well since they steadfastly refuse to close our borders.

This whole thing pisses me off actually.. I am tired of the self appointed ruling class of the universe speaking about us like an angry parent or something.

"What! What are you doing in there? Do you have a girl in there? Are you two breeding? Stop it this instant and come unlock the door!"

Constantly concerned that someone, somewhere JUST MIGHT be breeding and that they JUST MIGHT want to keep and raise their child as opposed to killing it or preventing conception in the first place.

I am convinced, the elder Bush is a globalist nutcase who get's off on other peoples breeding habbits.

[Askel5]

.. I am tired of the self appointed ruling class of the universe speaking about us like an angry parent or something.

It's one of the great misfortunes of our time that the parentalism of our "socialism with a human face" government manages yet to deride the just authority that is patriarchy.

Way too many folks confuse the two.