Posted on 07/20/2002 5:31:20 AM PDT by The Energizer
Edited on 05/07/2004 7:12:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
No adminstration can afford to have an individual in office, no matter how far down the food chain he or she is, who has so little understanding of the necessary standards of "official" public discourse in this country. His sentiments are no too outrageous if discussed privately, but publicly stated, they provide ammunition to the administration's enemies and raise a non-issue into the arena of public debate.
"There will be a groundswell of public opinion to banish civil rights. So the best thing we can do to preserve them is by keeping the country safe."
Braceras, another Bush appointee, said:"There's no constitutional right not to be inconvenienced or even embarrassed."
These are very dangerous thoughts. Arabs now, who's next? If any of these statement are true and verified, then both Kirsanow and Braceras need to be replaced immediately. Seems like the Civil Rights Commission needs a lesson in Constutional Law.
How is this statement unconstitutional? Since 9/11, there's hardly an American -- at some checkpoint or security screening -- who hasn't been inconvenienced and embarrassed. A nuisance -- yes. Unconstitutional -- no.
Assuming that the government will get to them before the vigilantes do.
Agreed! But instead all we seem to hear is about how Muslims here denigrate this country. The actions, and inactions, of the vast majority of Arab Muslims here ever since are giving me pause.
Where have you been? Did you miss the taliban bruality? the Palis that blow up their own children...... the public hangings.....amputations.....the oppression of every muslim woman.....the burning of school girls because they weren't properly dressed!!!!
Don't be fooled Islam is the most oppressive and evil religion to the non-believers, and even it's followers.Islam is satans spawn
In this case it is the thoughts of a member of the Civil Rights Commission that concern me. Thoughts such as these can ultimately lead to unconstitutional actions. The choice of words in this statement were poorly assembled and chosen and reflex poorly on the Commission. These are times where statements need to be chosen very carefully not to give a mis-perception of a bias to any group of Americans. I do not mean one needs to be PC.
Currently, it is not clear if the Constitution is being violated. Profiling is against the law. An argument can be made even though weak that a violation of the 14 Amendment does exist, if profiling can be validated. In certain cases. Though the Court will side with the Government in times of National Emergency.
Furthermore, we are again in times, whereas we do need to re-visit some of these statutes.
Now look at this mess. The USA is, whether it wants to say so or not, in a war with twenty or thirty Islamic nation-states. There are a couple MILLION of these states' nationals in the USA, not a couple hundred thousand Japanese.
Furthermore, virtually NONE of these has the slightest sympathy for the USA and its people and values, and nearly every one is in fact doing something hostile, even if only contributing funds, to the sworn enemies of this country. Many have done more. Their loyalty is to Mecca, not Washington, let me tell you, and we already have 100x as much reason to intern them as FDR had when he grabbed the Japanese.
"There will be a groundswell of public opinion to banish civil rights. So the best thing we can do to preserve them is by keeping the country safe."
One reason the administration keeps down playing the role of Islam in Sept. 11th attack is to keep the public anger focused elsewhere. I do not know how successful that stategy will be if there is another attack as massive as the 9/11 attack.
Remember Islam is a religon of peace. /scarcasm
On the contrary, what you describe is political correctness. I haven't read the transcript, but I believe Kursinow was pointing out the obvious: Americans' apprehensive attitude toward Muslims is growing, fostered by daily accusations of "racism" and "discrimination" towards the accusers of terrorism suspects, no matter what the evidence, by Muslim groups. There is wholesale public denial among the most prominent groups -- CAIR, AMC, ISNA -- that anyone in their community has been or is currently involved in terrorism.
This highly self-publicized attitude could act as an incendiary device should there be another attack on America.
I don't consider this bias: I consider it the basic human instinct for self-preservation.
I have preference my comments by saying “if true” meaning not out of context. For a lawyer though Kursinow remarks if not taken out of context are not exactly correct. The USSC and many Districts Courts have said differently over the years in some of these cases. Though it is on a case-by-case basis. No I am not being PC either. Kursinow could have said something to the effect like, "if another attacks occurs like the attack on 911 by Muslim extremist it can very well endanger our Civil Liberties or make it tougher to defend”. He said, “, you can forget about civil rights”. Speaking about public opinion.
It’s his job as well as all of ours to make sure this does not happen or is structured so that the effects are limited and focused. I have no support for AMC, CAIR or ISNA. I am concerned with mob rule though.
It's true, if there is another terrorist strike on US soil, the community will be rounded up for their own protection. It'll either be that or there will be slaughter in the streets as angry Americans take aim against the people who couldn't be bothered to assist.
Yes, there ARE some Arab Americans who have stepped forward, but the great majority of the community has not. They've either been very, very quiet or they have actively protested in the streets of the USA.
These people weren't saying this is what would be wanted, they're saying this is what will be demanded.
The community had an opportunity to stand up and be Americans, they've chosen instead to file civil liberty lawsuits instead.
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