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To: Catspaw
It is a high burden of proof, but if they have tapes of the probation agent creating new probation requirements on the fly, they probably have a case.

I forgot to address this: the probation officer fills out a form each visit for the probationer. It carries the standard clauses--no alcohol, no drugs, blah blah blah--but it also has a large blank space in which the probation agent can write other specific conditions of probation and these can be modified, added to and deleted at each visit. Before the probationer can leave the office, the probationer has to sign the form. If the probationer refuses to sign, the probation officer puts the probationer in cuffs, calls the police department for transport and the probationer is put in jail. The first week in jail is at the probation officer's authority; the second week has to be authorized by the PO's supervisor. The third week in jail is authorized out of the corrections dept. in Madison. I'd have to look it up to verify, but the probation revocation has to be started in that third week, although it can be earlier. And I'd just bet taping a probation meeting without prior consent of the agent is a violation of the rules.
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If they do have a tape of the PO making up new rules on the fly, then there would be no paper signed that already had those 'rules' on them on the previous visit. I don't see anything about the person refusing to sign. but I could have missed it.

As a word of advice tho, if you have a paper to sign with a large blank space meant for them to write 'instructions' or such in , fill in the large blank with a big x or something rather then leave it blank so something cannot be added after you sign, another thing would be to state by your signature how many pages are in the document you signed, and get a copy. (been burned, but not in a criminal matter)
63 posted on 07/19/2002 4:36:26 PM PDT by tickles
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To: tickles
LOL! I'm not on probation. But some of our clients are. If the agent doesn't make a big X or draw a line through the empty space, they're instructed to do so themselves before the sign the rules.

That goes for ANY document with blank spaces.

65 posted on 07/19/2002 4:59:10 PM PDT by Catspaw
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