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UPDATE ON SAMANTHA (CA) Arrest made in murder!!!!!!!
7/19/02 | Joe Hadenuf

Posted on 07/19/2002 10:16:33 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf

Update from OC Sheriff... Press conference..

Playing 911 tape of the people that found the body, male caller was extremely upset, and scared, he was crying, and telling 911 the location but the cell phone transmission was breaking up and was disconnected.

They called the telephone number he left before the disconnect and they called his home and got a messege machine. He called back within minutes and made contact again with 911 and was almost hysterical and crying saying it was little girl and was very distraught,

When Cell caller got home he called again from home phone and recontacted 911, 911 said they would pick him up and the he could show him where the body was.

End of 911 tape

Press conference continues, stating over 2000 citizens have given leads......

Another press conference at 6 PM

At 955 AM they made an arrest alihondro avial DOB 3-1375


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: california; kidnapping; murder; samantharunnion
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To: gawatchman
Not trying to give a Bible lesson here, just wanted to post this.

Thank you. And you can give a Bible lesson anytime you want!

1,322 posted on 07/20/2002 2:24:33 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Age of Reason; FITZ; archy
Way to go guys. It looks like the liberal, feminist, NOW-gang luvin, reverse racist, white male bashers surrendered.

Mr. oh yeah, name some immigrant mass murderers has gone on to make himself look like a fool on another thread.

Don't let that stop you from posting more, if they come to mind. It's good insurance the massive, unregulated legal and illegal immigration advocates won't come back.

LOL!

1,323 posted on 07/20/2002 2:31:00 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: Age of Reason
Mr. oh yeah, name some immigrant mass murderers has gone on to make himself look like a fool on another thread.

Don't let that stop you from posting more, if they come to mind. It's good insurance the massive, unregulated legal and illegal immigration advocates won't come back.

Well, let's not forget that there were the 2,500-plus criminals released from Cuban jails and mental patients who tried to slip in with the 35,000 or so fleeing Communist Cuba, most of whom have turned out to be as fine a bunch of Americans as any from any of our dozens of former ethnic groups. And, of course, at least a few enemy intelligence agents slipped in the mix, hardly the fault of the legitimite honest immigrants, but a danger to this country that shouldn't be ignored.

1,324 posted on 07/20/2002 2:49:22 PM PDT by archy
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To: 4Freedom
Mr. oh yeah, name some immigrant mass murderers has gone on to make himself look like a fool on another thread.

He frequently shows up on the Confederate and Southern History posts and threads where his generalizations and sopotty examples are shot down with dreary regularity, at which point he begins anew with the same old KKK labels.

Indeed, the tactic is so common with him, as with his attack in this thread on you, that one begins to wonder if he's a KKK recruiter trying to drum up attention to them....

-archy-/-

1,325 posted on 07/20/2002 3:00:46 PM PDT by archy
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To: rudeboy666; Don Myers
"Still, I think it's significant that 43% of Mexicans feel otherwise."

Minor correction, rudeboy666:

- Only 28% of Mexicans surveyed in Mexico don't believe that the Southwest United States rightfully belongs to them.

- 14% of Mexicans are undecided on the issue, but could go either way.

I believe that the safer bet would be to count them with 58% of Mexicans surveyed in Mexico that do believe that the Southwest United States rightfully belongs to them, or at least half of them.

That would make it 65% to 72% of Mexicans surveyed in Mexico are for trying to take the Southwest United States back.

Wouldn't you guys agree?

1,326 posted on 07/20/2002 4:10:01 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: archy
He's been using the same disruptive, race-baiting tactics on the immigration threads.
1,327 posted on 07/20/2002 4:16:28 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
It's mearly a simple matter of moving the border back to the 1848 lines.
1,328 posted on 07/20/2002 5:02:37 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: 4Freedom
Guy, rather than "surrender," I for one have decided just to let you run off at the mouth. Reasonable and rational people, seeing your racist, bigoted garbage spewed non-stop on this and other threads, will conclude as I have: That you are mentally unbalanced.

NO ONE in his right mind, and well-adjusted in his daily life, can harbor such nonstop hate against people he doesn't even know and sees only in terms of the color of their skin, or the shape of their eyes, or where they go to pray.

You are your own reward, I can tell you that. I just feel very deeply sorrowful for whomever has to put up with you on a daily basis.

They have my sympathy and my prayers.

1,329 posted on 07/20/2002 5:17:20 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: archy; 4Freedom
Archy, I think your post to me was meant for 4Freedom.
1,330 posted on 07/20/2002 7:03:49 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: 4Freedom
"Wouldn't you guys agree?"

Everything points in that direction.

1,331 posted on 07/20/2002 8:45:57 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: rudeboy666
I don't know about talks. We're being invaded, and our leaders are turning the other cheek.
1,332 posted on 07/20/2002 8:52:10 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: 4Freedom
That is very possible.
1,333 posted on 07/20/2002 8:55:21 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Illbay; Age of Reason; archy; FITZ
It amazes me to no end how you get completely shut down at every turn, on every thread and yet continue to babble on like a blithering idiot.

You accuse everyone that disagrees with your stupid reverse racist, race-baiting diatribes of being a bigot, racist, white supremecist, card-carrying member of the KKK.

You rattle off the names of white males that have committed mass murders and feign ignorance of any immigrants that have committed similarly heinous crimes.

What's that say about you, that you can only remember the names of white, male, mass murderers?

You don't need to answer that. That was a rhetorical question. You're the racist, bigot, here.

You demand a list of immigrants that have committed mass murder. Age of Reason, FITZ and Archy gave you the list and you don't even acknowledge it.

We know why that is, too.

We've all caught your name calling, personal attacking act on every thread we've seen you on.

You think your BS, disruptive, race-baiting tactics are really going to intimidate any of us?

1,334 posted on 07/20/2002 9:14:45 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: Undivided Heart
I AM NOT suggesting Avila is legally insane, i.e., unable to distinguish between right and wrong.

On the contrary, the point of my post was intended to predict, diffuse and dismiss his probable defense from the outset.

Assuming he IS the guilty pervert, I believe he is a mean, evil SOB, not insane -- he needs to be held accountable in accordance with the most severe provisions of the law.

IF (big if) society had the stomach to subect these people to truly hard labor, that would satisfy me more than capital punishment in these kinds of cases.

In my mind, incarceration of violent criminals serves four (4) purposes (in order)" 1: Protect society by denying the offender their freedom; 2: To PUNISH the offender; 3: For the incarceration and punishment to serve as a deterrent to others; and, 4: Possible rehabilitation.

Rehabilitation is not even a consideration in this crime. Incarceration would remove him from society but we do not have the fortitude truly to PUNISH him there. Therefore, capital punishment is the last, best option in this case -- and will serve as the best deterrent.

I hope I've made myself clear this time.

1,335 posted on 07/21/2002 6:07:58 AM PDT by skip2myloo
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To: 4Freedom
Yeah, yeah, I heard where they were naming even people who were naturalized citizens, etc.

But I wasn't talking about violent crimes--those happen every day, and I'd even submit that they are more frequent among certain "minority" populations. We're talking about "serial killers."

And also, while you and your brain-dead template through which you filter and screen everything you don't want to see keep going on about how WHITE men are gods and anyone with excess pigmentation are devils, you've lost track of what your argument was: That the latter group commit that large majority of these kinds of crimes, all the more reason why we should machine-gun them at the border, etc.

You don't hear your own despicable rhetoric. You're too shrill to listen to yourself.

You consider that I'm bashing "white men."

I'm not: I bashing despicable bigots like you who make FR reek every time you spew your vile filth.

1,336 posted on 07/21/2002 7:13:44 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: skip2myloo
I AM NOT suggesting Avila is legally insane, i.e., unable to distinguish between right and wrong.

I don't understand how we ever got where we are with this topic in our modern jurisprudence. How in the world can anyone determine "whether the person was able to distinguish between right and wrong"? We are not God, and we cannot see into a man's heart.

Therefore, we should have stuck with what we've always done in trying a person for crimes: Judge him on what he DID, not what he thought about it.

It's this kind of thinking that has led to the concept of "hate crimes." The person's motives are immaterial except to establish his guilt. That he had a motive is important; what that motive was is irrelevant.

1,337 posted on 07/21/2002 7:16:31 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
"...(you) keep going on and on about how white men are gods and anyone with excess pigmentation are devils..."

You are one sick, reverse racist, race-baiting, white male hater.

I, as well as others on this thread, witnessed you and your cheerleaders using the heinous rape and murder of this child as an excuse to use skewed, twisted statistics to bash white males.

I responded by pointing out that white males in the United States are unfairly maligned by statistics that don't reflect the equally vicious and heinous crimes committed by persons of all nationalities, races, religions and genders.

I'll say it for the umpteenth-and-one time, there's plenty of blame to go around for all nationalities, races, religions and genders, but that is no justification for our government to continue to allow the massive influx of millions of legal and illegal immigrants into our country without criminal background checks.

But then you're for open borders and everyone that isn't, in your tiny mind, is an unbalanced xenophobe.

You're the one with the agenda that would see more of our children sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.

"...machine gun them at the border..."

Oh yeah, you're sane alright.

ROTFLMAO!

1,338 posted on 07/21/2002 8:11:33 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
What's that say about you, that you can only remember the names of white, male, mass murderers?

You got him good with that one.

1,339 posted on 07/21/2002 8:37:44 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: 4Freedom
no justification for our government to continue to allow the massive influx of millions of legal and illegal immigrants into our country without criminal background checks.

Here we disagree.

It's looking to me like there is no more room for continuing any immigration--legal or otherwise.

1,340 posted on 07/21/2002 8:41:13 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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