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UPDATE ON SAMANTHA (CA) Arrest made in murder!!!!!!!
7/19/02 | Joe Hadenuf

Posted on 07/19/2002 10:16:33 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf

Update from OC Sheriff... Press conference..

Playing 911 tape of the people that found the body, male caller was extremely upset, and scared, he was crying, and telling 911 the location but the cell phone transmission was breaking up and was disconnected.

They called the telephone number he left before the disconnect and they called his home and got a messege machine. He called back within minutes and made contact again with 911 and was almost hysterical and crying saying it was little girl and was very distraught,

When Cell caller got home he called again from home phone and recontacted 911, 911 said they would pick him up and the he could show him where the body was.

End of 911 tape

Press conference continues, stating over 2000 citizens have given leads......

Another press conference at 6 PM

At 955 AM they made an arrest alihondro avial DOB 3-1375


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: california; kidnapping; murder; samantharunnion
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To: hoosiermama
Also note my other poem at post #1022.
1,121 posted on 07/19/2002 6:56:40 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: Illbay
Justin ought to get some of it. That I am sure. He sounds generous, whatever he gets he will share.
1,122 posted on 07/19/2002 6:57:45 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: 4Freedom
WHERE have you been. He's already tried. SO you think a Democrat presidents appointments are better? GET OVER YOUR PROBLEM AND THINK!
1,123 posted on 07/19/2002 6:57:56 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: crystalk
crystalk, let me say first that I lost my three older kids in a divorce, when their mom walked out on me. I do believe they would have been better off WITH ME, and that perhaps if I'd been "man" enough to become the kind of pain in her *** that I should have, things might have turned out differently.

And let me add that when I divorced a SECOND time (after a "rebound" marriage that was the most ill-advised thing I've ever done in my life), I went after custody of my daughter and got her. She has lived with me and my THIRD wife for seven years now, and I think she's FAR better off with me than her mother.

But you cannot make such generalizations. Statistics such as you are spouting here mean no more when it suits the "masculinist" agenda than the "feminist."

The fact is that each case is different, and I don't for a second believe that in the VAST number of cases--nearly all, as you suggest--the kids would be better off with Dad. There are just TOO MANY scum-sucking "dads" around, and in fact I'd venture to say that men probably have a slight lead in "scumminess" in this regard.

I've just seen to much of it.

I do wish that somehow we could slug it out on a level playing field, and that there wasn't the bias against fathers that there is.

But I remember Dr. Laura saying once--and I don't know who or what she was quoting--that more than 70% of the time, when dads go for custody, they get it.

The problem is, too many dads REALLY DON'T WANT IT. They want to be free to pursue the next honey, etc.

This issue is far more complex than "the agendized" on any side will ever admit.

1,124 posted on 07/19/2002 6:58:52 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: hoosiermama
Doubt she would answer a ping, though it would be news if she did. Emma Lazarus has been dead for 115 years.
1,125 posted on 07/19/2002 7:00:09 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: DJ88
My guess is this guy did it alone. When they say "further investigation" they just mean they have only begun gathering the bulk of the evidence.

Think about it: This thing only happened on Tuesday, and the perp has been arrested only three days later. That is NO TIME AT ALL to gather ALL the evidence that they will need to put this guy on Death Row.

To those of us who aren't familiar with police work it seems like it should be black or white, open or shut, but the great majority of crimes of this nature happen with no witnesses (which is why they always kill their victims, in fact).

BTW, they just mentioned on NPR news that Carona says he's "100% certain" that Avila is the man.

But that doesn't mean the investigation stops. They don't just want to be certain themselves. They want to make sure that no jury is going to have "more than a reasonable doubt" of this man's guilt.

1,126 posted on 07/19/2002 7:02:48 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: hoosiermama
David Alan Westerfield has (had?) A half million dollar home with a swimming pool and fine furniture, an $80,000 motorhome, a $40,000 Toyota 4 Runner, a $20,000 collection of "Sandtoys". He had a college education and a successful home technical business. 50 years old, he was twice married, and raised two successful children.

Some people would like to define the man's personna, based solely on his $3.50 porno collection.
1,127 posted on 07/19/2002 7:03:08 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Illbay
I think particularly when the children are girls or very, very small, men may feel that they really CANNOT replace mom, or pay to have her replaced.

Often, they are very scared their incomes can never be enough to meet all the needs, and must feel the kids should be put where if Mom does work, those funds might also go to help the kids.

LOL, you and I know it often doesn't.

Best, I didn't know you were involved yourself, thought Mormons didn't divorce. Just kidding. Best, crys.

1,128 posted on 07/19/2002 7:04:37 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: Joe Hadenuf
You've said this three times. How is this breaking news? I mean, it's interesting but it isn't NEARLY as important IMO than Sheriff Carona's statement that he's "100% sure" that Avila committed this murder.

And fwiw, I doubt seriously that this confidence is based upon what the perp's dad might have done.

1,129 posted on 07/19/2002 7:05:24 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: crystalk
Was said to have died slowly of a very low calorie diet aka self-starvation, just a couple hundred calories per day.

Oh, great. I guess that means that we can expect "St. Karen of Carpenter" within the next few decades, then. After all, a series of chart-topping hits can be considered a "miracle," and she and Theresa were both anorexic.

I think the RC church should just announce "that's it, the Saint card is full" and close up shop.

1,130 posted on 07/19/2002 7:09:38 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: John Jamieson
John, Fox news. The sheriff just told John Gibson that they INDEED had DNA evidence. Good.

sw

1,131 posted on 07/19/2002 7:11:09 PM PDT by spectre
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To: 4Freedom
You are a sad, sad excuse for a FReeper.
1,132 posted on 07/19/2002 7:11:13 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: sweetliberty; John Jamieson; poweqi; crystalk; Yeti
"There was some law enforcement official interviewed on Fox yesterday that said it could be expedited significantly by having the FBI forensics team and a lab on location rather than having to send DNA evidence to Washington for analysis. --SL

They don't have the definitive DNA yet. They could have very good blood serology. The Chief said he is 100% sure. He taked about crime scenes, they may have a room full of blood somewhere. --JJ

His may have been on file already, --crys


I think ya'll are right.. it's just amazing..for some cases, they will move swiftly..and others they have to just drag it out. That seems just plain wrong.

Yeti...Hey maybe you're right! The VD trial has a warped time zone problem. :)

1,133 posted on 07/19/2002 7:11:24 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: brydic1
BTTT!
1,134 posted on 07/19/2002 7:12:26 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: wimpycat; 4Freedom
Especially when "4Freedom" doesn't have a freakin' clue, he just picks up tidbits on "Stormfront."
1,135 posted on 07/19/2002 7:13:17 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: sweetliberty; John Jamieson; poweqi; crystalk; Yeti
That took FOREVER to post.
1,136 posted on 07/19/2002 7:13:21 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: John Jamieson
Add to your list at least 3 Patents on Medical equipment that is used to make handicapped individual's lives easier.

sw

1,137 posted on 07/19/2002 7:13:59 PM PDT by spectre
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To: crystalk
'Course, I believe Westerfield's guilty as h*ll and is goin' down for it.

But we'll see when the jury comes out of that room.

1,138 posted on 07/19/2002 7:14:05 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Constitutions Grandchild; Joe Hadenuf
. I wish more than three of those who spoke would have expressed some frustration or grief that "the patient died."

I don't know if you mean Sheriff Carona...but the man cried, for Pete's sake. And there was no small amount of anger when he spoke to the cockroach.

1,139 posted on 07/19/2002 7:15:27 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Joe Hadenuf
If Clinton were president (Thank God he isn't) he would have been at the press conference taking credit somehow for finding Availa...
1,140 posted on 07/19/2002 7:16:14 PM PDT by joyful1
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