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EMPLOYEES OF SEX STORES ARRESTED IN STING(POLICE USE UNDERAGRE GIRL IN STING)
The Tallahassee Democrat ^ | July 19, 2002 | Tony Bridges

Posted on 07/19/2002 6:18:07 AM PDT by FreeTally

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To: Don Myers
FreeTally, I just don't buy into your concern for the kids. Sorry.

Im more concerned that 1) We may have a creepy Sherrif's department that gets off on exposing young girls to adult products and 2) That there are parents out there that approve of this and allow their daughter to do it. Hell, I'd almost bet a parent or relative of hers is a cop.

41 posted on 07/19/2002 7:59:06 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: JudyB1938
If they wanted to bust the stores for selling to under-age teenagers, then they should have waited outside the store and checked ID's after purchase.

Or walk in and check for ID's. They do it in bars around here all of the time. The porno store can be cited for allowing them to come in, period, as far as I know.

42 posted on 07/19/2002 8:00:30 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: JudyB1938
It's WRONG to use a minor for that stuff!

I'm content to let her parents be the judge of that.

If they wanted to bust the stores for selling to under-age teenagers, then they should have waited outside the store and checked ID's after purchase.

However, that would take a great deal more police time, and from what we're hearing from freeper residents of the area, the police also have a lot of other pressing matters that need dealing with.

43 posted on 07/19/2002 8:03:20 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: FreeTally
Good grief! What a story!

Yep, I was there. As was a policeman off duty who works the downtown area. He watched the whole thing and approached the clown who was "stinging" the place. He questioned the tactics, and was promptly threatened with trouble down at the station if he interferred.

The resturant around the corner was ticketed the same afternoon for having more than one drink in front of a customer who had been the recipient of complimentary cocktail. Seems ya can't do that in Chicago.

Freakin jerks. The local thugs are almost always worse than the federal thugs.

44 posted on 07/19/2002 8:03:20 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I'm content to let her parents be the judge of that.

One of the few things that the government is content to allow parents to be the judge of.

45 posted on 07/19/2002 8:06:07 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Don Myers

What escapes me is the rush to protect porn, drugs, immorality, and anything else that debilitates society.

I don't think you will have much of an argument here that our culture and society has been in the hole for the last forty years. But this is not what we should be paying our law enforcement to do. They are there to protect us from the bad guys.

46 posted on 07/19/2002 8:08:25 AM PDT by Technoman
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If the cops were serious, they would get an adult (18-21) dressed to "look young" with ID saying they are 17 and send them in. A clerk should check anything close to borderline in appearance and better throw out anyone displaying "proof" they are underage. This way the cops avoid committing a CRIME to possibly entrap others to break the law.

Common sense, works wonders.

BTW - the stores that caught the girl and tossed her out, do they have a lawsuit for attempted entrapment, disrupting a lawful business, and contributing to the delenquincy of a minor?

47 posted on 07/19/2002 8:11:27 AM PDT by Lichgod
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To: Technoman
They are there to protect us from the bad guys.

Everyone is a bad guy to some people.

48 posted on 07/19/2002 8:12:19 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
Yep, I was there. As was a policeman off duty who works the downtown area. He watched the whole thing and approached the clown who was "stinging" the place. He questioned the tactics, and was promptly threatened with trouble down at the station if he interferred.

Figures. At least there seems to be a reasonable officer around there.

The resturant around the corner was ticketed the same afternoon for having more than one drink in front of a customer who had been the recipient of complimentary cocktail. Seems ya can't do that in Chicago.

Say What? I guess they don't have "2 for 1" drink specials there. Wow.

Freakin jerks. The local thugs are almost always worse than the federal thugs.

Yeh, both have figured out how to extort money from the citizens under the color of law.

49 posted on 07/19/2002 8:13:39 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: Lichgod
If the cops were serious, they would get an adult (18-21) dressed to "look young" with ID saying they are 17 and send them in.

The problem is that, if the store sold, there would be no crime. They want you to commit a crime. Also, they would be making a fake ID - a crime ;-)

A clerk should check anything close to borderline in appearance and better throw out anyone displaying "proof" they are underage. This way the cops avoid committing a CRIME to possibly entrap others to break the law.

The one store I have been in asks for ID when you come in the door. They have signs saying "Its the parents repsonisbility to keep your kids out. If they come in with a fake ID, we will not be responsible" or something like that.

Common sense, works wonders.

You would think.

BTW - the stores that caught the girl and tossed her out, do they have a lawsuit for attempted entrapment, disrupting a lawful business, and contributing to the delenquincy of a minor?

Not sure. The article seems to imply those are possibilities. The story is not clear as to what happened to the employees who tossed her out. It almost reads as if they arrested the people anyway. This could get real messy. IMO, this is even way different than sending in a kid to buy beer or cigs. You are exposing them to explicit adult products, not movies in plain wrappers.

50 posted on 07/19/2002 8:18:37 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: FreeTally
Figures. At least there seems to be a reasonable officer around there.

Yeah, he is OK, but he is also one of the ones who drives home plowed most of the time. They don't seem to arrest their own, just us.

Say What? I guess they don't have "2 for 1" drink specials there. Wow.

No specials of any kind are allowed in the People's Republic of Chicago. No happy hour, nor "round to its". No cigarettes sold in the bar.

Except the cop bars, which sem somehow exempt. Funny like that.

51 posted on 07/19/2002 8:20:41 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
It isn't like the kids can't find porn on the WWW...
52 posted on 07/19/2002 9:30:29 AM PDT by buffyt
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To: ThomasJefferson
Chicago doesn't sound like too fun of a city. I never considered going there based upon the whole gun ban thing, but this puts the icing on the cake.
53 posted on 07/19/2002 9:33:12 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: FreeTally
Chicago doesn't sound like too fun of a city.

It used to be and hopefully will be again some day.

Actually most people have made an art out of getting around the thugs. It's a Chicago tradition.

54 posted on 07/19/2002 9:41:56 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: GovernmentShrinker
If she is anything like the kids that they get to do alcohol buys where I live, she probably looks like she is 30. Once I noticed that all the stores in one area had their beer coolers chained except one. I asked the clerk about it, and she said that they had a boy that was 20 come in to buy beer. She carded him because the store policy is to card everyone, regardless. she said he looked older than me, and i'm 36. She said he had gray hair already. Its just another form of entrapment that seems to occur more in an election year.
55 posted on 07/19/2002 10:23:54 AM PDT by jdub
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To: FreeTally
The adult stores in Phoenix card everyone who walks in, however old they appear to be. So they tell me.
56 posted on 07/19/2002 10:52:18 AM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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To: buffyt
It isn't like the kids can't find porn on the WWW...

Exactly. If you've got Kazaa, there's no need to leave the comfort of your own home for puerno.

57 posted on 07/19/2002 12:53:41 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: FreeTally
I'm sure the "law and order at all costs" Freepers find this perfectly acceptable even admirable. I find it disgusting. But of course police aren't required to follow the laws, just to "enforce" it in whatever way they deem acceptable.
58 posted on 07/19/2002 1:30:16 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: goodieD
Notice that no one seems to be upset that the stores are selling porn to minors.
59 posted on 07/19/2002 1:33:22 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
Hey I'd be just as happy if the places didn't exist, but since they are legal (like cigarettes), I don't agree with using illegal and immoral means to drive them out of business.
60 posted on 07/19/2002 2:22:25 PM PDT by goodieD
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