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To: RogerFGay
Sarcasm on

Child support will be ordered upon birth against both parents regardless of marital status. If a father is unknown, one will be assigned support payments at random. If the mother dies during birth one will be assigned support payments at random.

Bad humor sarcasm off.

In all seriousness, reform need to happen I just do not know what needs to be done.
4 posted on 07/17/2002 1:05:30 PM PDT by Greeklawyer
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To: Greeklawyer
It's actually very simple. Get rid of all the federal reforms since 1974. When President Gerald Ford signed the bill that created the US Office of Child Support Enforcement (1975) he said that it took the federal government too far into domestic relations and promised to propose legislation to correct the problem. At that time, very very very few people (just some extremists, kooks, and one presidential hopeful {Reagan}) were for it. It only passed as an amendment to more popular social services legislation. The OCSE itself is responsible for most of the lying, cheating, stealing, and backroom deals with gangsters and communists that happened in the process of building itself into an empire.
7 posted on 07/17/2002 3:11:37 PM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: Greeklawyer
In all seriousness, reform need to happen I just do not know what needs to be done.

I agree. The first thing that needs to be done is make divorce more difficult. A mother and father maintaining two separate households costs a lot of money better spent on the kids.

Second, not all fathers are villians. I think that the number of deadbeat dads is blown out of proportion. But they DO exist. My father was one of them. He left the country so he wouldn't have to pay child support to my mom. And you know what? I'm glad. My mom did it on her own, without bitterness (that I ever saw) and we have the best relationship. I met my father when I was 18 and that was more than enough. He has three daughters (two biological, one adopted), and none of us want to have a relationship with him. He will die a lonely man.

With that being said, I think that child support DOES need work, but not in the way the so-called reformers think. Starting with making divorce more difficult (except in physically abusive relationships), we need to help parents by cutting taxes so there is more money to support their kids. And, I don't think that any dad who hasn't abused his kids should be denied access to his children, period. I hear this happens, but I actually haven't seen it.

There are problems. My daughter's best friend's parents divorced a few years ago. Before the divorce, the dad took out a second on the house and took the cash when he left, in order to build a house for him and his girlfriend. The mom got the house, but with a higher mortgage payment. And still, when we see them at school functions, she is polite and respectful for the kids sake. She should be a saint. I would have shot the bastard.

I'm sure that more people have more ideas. This is an important topic that needs to be explored.

I'm upset that so many good conservatives have signed onto this bill, but maybe they think that it's a tax cutting measure. I'm all for cutting taxes, and if we have to do it piecemeal, that's life. I'd like tax cuts for married people with children where one parents stays home. If we didn't have to pay taxes, I could quit my job and be home with my kids.

8 posted on 07/17/2002 4:36:02 PM PDT by Gophack
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