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On the edge of a precipice
The Guardian ^ | July 17, 2002 | Larry Elliott, economics editor

Posted on 07/16/2002 6:13:25 PM PDT by gcruse

The US stock market collapse could trigger the biggest global recession since the 1930s

Larry Elliott, economics editor
Tuesday July 16, 2002
The Guardian


Three years ago Time magazine carried an article by James Cramer, the founder of TheStreet.com, an online magazine fully dedicated to the worship of mammon. Extolling the virtues of a life dedicated to buying and selling shares from home, it was called "Yeah, Day Traders!" Cramer's message was simple. Forget teaching, forget tilling the land, forget making trucks or mending bones; instead make a living from speculation. There had, the article insisted, never been a better time "to trade for a living".

In his splendid book on the triumph of extreme capitalism*, Thomas Frank called 1999 the summer of corporate love, and he was spot on. Just as in 1967, the promise was of liberation from the straight world of the past; the difference was that the drug of choice was not LSD but money. And the gurus of the revolution were not the Beatles and the Stones, but men like Cramer and James Glassman, who predicted that the Dow Jones industrial average would not stop at 10,000 but rise inexorably to 36,000. A suitable epitaph for the summer of corporate love would be John Lennon's for the Beatles when they split up three years after Sgt Pepper: "The dream is over."

Today the talk is not of when the Dow will hit 36,000 but how low it will go. Today, a magazine that used the headline "Yeah, Day Traders!" would be in danger of being torched by the small army of investors who have seen the value of their portfolios shrivel since the bubble burst in the spring of 2000. Today, the issue is whether the price of collective market insanity will be a serious global recession or, even worse, a full-blown slump.

There is an army of pundits out there willing to say that there is little to worry about. Policy makers everywhere are oozing reassurance, intoning the mantra that the economic vibes are good. Lawrence Lindsey, George Bush's economic adviser, was at it in the Financial Times yesterday, insisting that a recession in the US was "unlikely".

In reality, of course, nobody knows for sure what is going to happen. Financial analysts have their charts which are supposed to be able to predict the future from the past, and these now spell trouble. Economists who look at the hard economic data say that cheaper money and higher spending means things are getting better. But both presuppose that economics is a science rather than a modern form of alchemy, and that the practitioners in its black arts are anything more than highly-paid witch doctors. The only theory that is really relevant to the stock market is chaos theory. The recent history of the dollar is a case in point. For at least the past five years, the strength of the US currency has been eating into corporate profitability and contributing to a record trade deficit. Markets knew that the dollar was overvalued, but kept on buying it regardless. Over the past two months, the mood has changed and the dollar has fallen by 14% against the euro, breaking through the one-for-one parity level yesterday for the first time in more than two years. When will the fall be arrested? Who knows? On some estimates, the dollar is still 30% overvalued, but a rapid fall of that size would feed back into the equity markets, with foreign investors rushing for the door.

All of which explains why policymakers are a lot more concerned about the recent downward spasm in share prices than they are letting on. The sharp fall in American consumer confidence reported last Friday was a clear indication that the public mood has been affected by the declines on Wall Street triggered by the $3.8bn accounting fraud at WorldCom. Alan Greenspan, chairman of the Federal Reserve, America's central bank, is giving testimony to Congress today but his words will be less important than the Fed's actions when it meets next month to set interest rates.

Greenspan's real fear is that the US economy will become locked in a downward spiral in which falling share prices lead to weak consumption, which in turn puts pressure on company profits and - eventually - the financial system itself. Asset prices would collapse and corporations be forced to slash prices in order to generate cash flow, leading to a period of deflation in which lower interest rates failed to stimulate growth. It could never happen, say the optimists. In fact, it already has - in the world's second largest economy, Japan. There, the country has had four recessions since its bubble burst at the end of the 1980s. Prices are falling, consumers are hoarding cash; it would take but one more shove to push the banks over the edge into systemic crisis. Greenspan has been studying a voluminous report he ordered into the Japanese experience; that's how worried he is.

The best that can be hoped for is that there are no more stories of boardroom wrongdoing over the coming weeks, and that some better (and honest) figures from some of the titans of corporate America produce a rapid recovery in share prices, which then boosts consumer spending. This would not provide a cure for the economy's ills, which are caused by excessive hi-tech investment and excessive borrowing during the bubble years, but it would at least buy Greenspan some time.

F ar more worrying would be a continuation of the falls in share prices over the next couple of weeks. In those circumstances, the Fed would then come under strong pressure to cut interest rates at its August meeting, and would almost certainly bow to it. There is, however, no guarantee that it would be effective in restoring confidence. Why? Firstly, it would be a small cut of only 0.25 percentage points from the already low level of 1.75%. Secondly, it might be counter-productive, seen as a sign that the Fed was panicking (which it would be). Finally, the relevant level of interest rates is the one being paid by companies and consumers on their loans. These have not been coming down nearly quickly enough to prevent financial distress.

The underlying problem is that since the mid-1990s, share prices are up by 200% but corporate profits - as measured by sober government statisticians rather than dodgy auditors - have risen by 40%. It is conceivable that Greenspan would have to cut, cut and cut again before Wall Street responded. Even then (and assuming there is no invasion of Iraq to complicate matters), there is a risk that the easing of policy will simply lead to a re-run of this year - a short-lived burst of euphoria followed by the realisation that companies cannot produce the earnings expected of them. Greenspan and Bush would then be in an even worse quandary than they are now, having used up nearly all the shots in their locker. Meanwhile, Europe and Japan - heavily dependent on a US recovery to keep their economies ticking over - would be faced with the prospect of deep, prolonged recession.

If this sounds gloomy, that's because it is. It would be the most critical moment for the global economy since the 1930s. There would, however, be one silver lining: people would ask how we got into this mess in the first place. The answer is that policy makers, dazzled by Cramer, Glassman and their friends in the financial markets, deliberately removed the brake pedal from global capitalism. And, as any engineer knows, the brake pedal is what allows the machine to travel safely at speed. Without it there are only two speeds - dangerously fast and dead slow.

*One Market Under God, Thomas Frank (Secker and Warburg)

larry.elliott@guardian.co.uk


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To: Lazamataz
It was poultry in motion.

A fowl remark.

I'm not pecking on you:-)

41 posted on 07/16/2002 8:15:15 PM PDT by FreedomFarmer
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To: gcruse
Ronald Reagan had a great line with that. I think it was in the movie "Hong Kong" which co-starred Rhonda Fleming (I think).

Anyway, Reagan's character in the movie told Fleming something like: "We had a great deal just after the War. We would buy military surplus low and sell high. It couldn't lose."

Fleming: "So what happened?"

Reagan: "We lost."

42 posted on 07/16/2002 8:16:35 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
However, for the most OUTSTANDING breakfasts in L.A., one must check out the Pantry Cafe in downtown L.A. at the corner of 9th and Figueroa.

---> You boosted that place a few years ago here. How come I remember this and not more the important things?
43 posted on 07/16/2002 8:16:51 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: PJ-Comix
I thought you were going to say that one of the Japanese jumped out of the taxi being pursued by hookers and asked you: "Waffo doggee style?"

If you liked The Pantry, you'd like the Apple Pan on Pico. (Great hamburgers served at the same location since the 1920s.)
44 posted on 07/16/2002 8:31:53 PM PDT by al-andalus
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To: Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr; babylonian; happygrl; Crazymonarch; Fred Mertz; ...
>On the edge of a precipice

Or deck, balcony, cliff.  There have been lots of warnings.

45 posted on 07/16/2002 8:34:05 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: dennisw
Someone should do a thread on LA dining. I love old joints like the Pantry. There's also Musso & Frank's in Hollywood, but not too many more.
46 posted on 07/16/2002 8:39:03 PM PDT by al-andalus
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To: al-andalus
If you liked The Pantry, you'd like the Apple Pan on Pico.

Pico near Westwood Blvd? Been there.

47 posted on 07/16/2002 8:56:59 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
. . for the most OUTSTANDING breakfasts in L.A., one must check out the Pantry Cafe in downtown L.A.

The Pantry?

Isn't that Riordan's joint? Seems like he had a run-in with the health inspectors once, but that was some time ago.

LA does have some long-established restaurants. Too bad Little Joe's finally bit the dust. (Doubt many Japanese tourists ate there unless they were lost.)

48 posted on 07/16/2002 8:57:39 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: logician2u
For years Tommy Lasorda kept Little Joe's afloat almost singlehandadly, used to eat there after Dodger games with his own little Rat Pack.
49 posted on 07/16/2002 9:08:52 PM PDT by al-andalus
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To: PJ-Comix
If you liked The Pantry, you'd like the Apple Pan on Pico.

Pico near Westwood Blvd? Been there

Obviously you are a fellow gourmand, sir. I doff my hat.
50 posted on 07/16/2002 9:12:55 PM PDT by al-andalus
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To: gcruse
policy makers, dazzled by Cramer, Glassman and their friends in the financial markets, deliberately removed the brake pedal from global capitalism. And, as any engineer knows, the brake pedal is what allows the machine to travel safely at speed.

That sounds pretty ludicrous to blame everything on the over-optomistic advice of Crameer, Glassman and "their friends in the financial markets". Sounds to me like Larry Elliot, the writer of this article, took their advice and lost his retirement fund. And now he's sore and bitter. Most people who have experience trading will take their cues from the market first and will consider the opinions of others second.

I also take offense to Larry's reference to stock traders and analysts as worshippers of Mammon. I'll bet anything Larry was singing a different tune 5 years ago. Some of us still do make a living off day trading. Just because he probably lost his savings in the market doesn't mean he has the right to go slinging insults at people. It looks bad when a person doesn't take responsibility for their own bad choices.

51 posted on 07/16/2002 10:08:06 PM PDT by Sally II
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To: Sally II
Some of us still do make a living off day trading.

You must be awfully good.  :)

52 posted on 07/16/2002 10:20:53 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Dave in Eugene of all places
I would have have said put the brakes on wholesale mania, i.e. dutch tulip mania, east india corp mania, trillion dollar internet.com mania, etc., as opposed to how the author phrased it. I assume gspan got some feedback after his irrational exuberance speech early into the irrational exuberance, since he was quiet after that.

I would note that I believe the clintons at least partly wanted brakes off the market because citizens seeing themselves making more money are less likely to demand their president be impeached/removed.

53 posted on 07/16/2002 11:02:21 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Sally II
re taking responsibility for choices; as you know in the securities business that kind of attitude is a huge legal liability just waiting to detonate. Some of the stories I am seeing/hearing are stunning.

FWIW, I have strong doubts that cramer is even a good trader. I think he was the publicity arm of his hedge fund, since he came across on cnbc in a way that a lot of viewers liked apparently...from his comments, egomania, I find it hard to believe he was successful trading over any period of time, unless it was working completely at the subconscious level and ignoring his own conscious thoughts. OTOH, I have known people with long-established track records that were quite stuck on themselves, so who knows.

54 posted on 07/16/2002 11:12:58 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: logician2u
LA does have some long-established restaurants.

Like Felipe's near Union Station. It specializes in French dip sandwiches. Another great spot.

55 posted on 07/17/2002 3:38:36 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
Then, why have I been hearing for so long that it is to our advantage to allow all our manufacturing to move to other countries? If it is bad for Japan to stop manufacturing why is it good for the US? Can you imagine someone 200 years ago trying to tell the citizens of a young USA that they would be better off importing all manufactured goods than attempting to create their own? Didn't I hear that one of the major reasons that General Lee finally had to surrender was that the Confederacy was dependent on agriculture and had very little manufacturing capability? Should we feel safer knowing that we have shut down a large part of our defense industry? Can we buy cruise missiles cheaply from Taiwan. Are they coming to take me away?
56 posted on 07/17/2002 4:41:59 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: RipSawyer
We manufacture information. The "stuff" based on that info can be made anywhere. BTW, in agriculture no nation can ever match us. Which reminds me. How is Ukrainian wheat production nowadays? When they were Commie, there were wheat shortages over there even though the Ukaine was known as the "breadbasket of Europe."
57 posted on 07/17/2002 5:02:14 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
I don't know about the Ukrainian wheat fields but I get the impression that the Russian people are so demoralized that all most of them want to do is lie around and drink vodka. It may take generations before they have the can do spirit to make something out of the natural resources which they apparently have had in abundance.
58 posted on 07/17/2002 8:40:48 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: RipSawyer
You are a few years out of date. Things are actually improving quite a bit in Russia. The main thing they have to do over there is destroy the power of the Russian Mafia but things have improved quite a bit recently. I guess we have to give Putin the credit for that.
59 posted on 07/17/2002 2:04:22 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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