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Astronomers Hope to Find E.T. in Next 25 Years
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| Tue Jul 16, 6:34 AM ET
| By Belinda Goldsmith
Posted on 07/16/2002 7:40:55 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon
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To: VadeRetro
You must be experientially dyslexic.
To: donh
"There are none so blind as them who will not see".
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posted on
07/18/2002 3:14:00 PM PDT
by
Ahban
To: apochromat
Now, you apparently want to pretend that inappropriate snideness isn't obnoxiousNot at all. The fact is that I intended no snideness at any point. In fact, reviewing what I wrote, I don't even see how you could read snideness into it. But no matter: I'm sorry you took it ill. That was never my intention.
To: VadeRetro
I'm holding back on on the contempt for you jokers. It's a public forum, after all.
To: Ahban
"There are none so blind as them who will not see". Grammar is irrelevant but I think you have to choose between "those who" and "them as." (He said snidely.) ;)
To: apochromat
I'm holding back on on the contempt for you jokers. You've got a serious leak. But, seriously, I bet you have no way of making me care what your problem is.
To: apochromat
I'm holding back on on the contempt for you jokers. It's a public forum, after all. You've been quietly offering/threatening to commit meltdown hara kiri on this forum for some days now. You have clearance to proceed.
To: Physicist
I don't even see how you could read snideness into it You said I was wrong (about exactly what, only you could know) in your first reply to me here, compared it to science fiction, then proceeded into a nonsequitur where you get Bob moving really fast. I guess I should congratulate you on not slacking off from that initial pace.
To: VadeRetro
With all due respect, you have an inordinate talent for being a lying fool. Seek professional psychiatric help if you persist.
To: apochromat
I see that you have been incredibly provoked. Excuse me for thinking that your behavior was unjustified, as now it turns out somebody said
you were wrong about something.
Perhaps we should all leave you alone for the next month while you get over the sulkies?
To: VadeRetro
You'll seriously consider my helpful suggestion to you, if you have any sense.
To: apochromat
You said I was wrong (about exactly what, only you could know) in your first reply to me here, That would be reply #151. I still see nothing incorrect or insulting about it. If I misunderstood the comment I was responding to, I'm sorry (if we could each have a dime for each time that happened on FR, we'd all be rich) but in that case it would have been more helpful if you'd clarified yourself, rather than lapsing into too-subtle-by-half petulance.
To: apochromat
How did you get Bob to go so fast?Bob is going slower than light. If he's far enough away, and the signal is fast enough, he can be going as slowly as you like.
To: Physicist
If it doesn't matter that Bob is even moving, then it was a non-sequitur within a non-sequitur, since you had no reason to say Bob moved at all. The main non-sequitur is that the signal is FTL, seeing as I never implied on this thread that anyone could send an FTL signal to anyone else. Hence there remains no evident reason to disagree with me.
To: apochromat
Characterizing Reep's (VadeRepo's) circumstances in the best possible light like that could lull him into a false sense of security and prevent him from trying to take corrective measures...
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posted on
07/18/2002 4:22:38 PM PDT
by
medved
To: medved
I can't stop you, but I can assure you I can handle all of this without any help from other posters.
To: Physicist
too-subtle-by-half Thanks
To: apochromat
I never implied on this thread that anyone could send an FTL signal to anyone else. What you said was that in your understanding, FTL effects need not lead to causality violations. What I was attempting to show (to the interested reader, whether or not that describes you) was that FTL communications do indeed imply the violation of causality, and not in some abstract, technical, "on-paper" sense (which is what I thought you meant by a "Feynman-Wheeler" sense), but in a practical, technologically exploitable ("Finney-Wells") sense. So strong is the connection between the speed of light and causality that in physics papers the terms "faster than light" and "causality violating" are used interchangeably.
To: Physicist
The Finnish gravity experiments you read about appear to imply the possibility of FTL communications, gravity propagating instantaneously as it does. You gonna send the causality police off to Finland to arrest the guy?
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posted on
07/18/2002 5:01:07 PM PDT
by
medved
To: Physicist
in a practical, technologically exploitable ("Finney-Wells") sense Ah yes, of course. Well, this is indeed a deep subject for you, and it has been a fascinating conversation. Have a good night.
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