Posted on 07/15/2002 5:10:02 PM PDT by knighthawk
Prior to 1948, Jews were allowed to settle anywhere on that land. Now is no different than then. Are you seriously suggesting that Palestinians should be able to keep Jews off "their" land while Jews must allow Palestinians in Israel?
I hate the fact that America has been dragged by Israel's lobby into taking Israel's side blah blah blah George Washington blah blah blah.
Why do you characterize it so? You do not see America's interest in making the decisions she has?
Why do you think we're on "Israel's side?". We aren't. We are for stability and prosperity. We are simply honoring our committments, which is to provide Egypt and Israel money for US made weapons in order to maintain stability. We pressure Israel to hold back from taking certain measures for the same reason.
Reiterating a sovereign nation's right to resist and counterattack those who make war against it does not mean we are "taking their side". And by refusing to endorse the creation of a Palestinian state run by a terrorist is not taking "Israel's side".
1. And ancient Israel came into being in the first place because it invaded 'Eretz Kena`an and killing and expelled de, 'ow you say, masses of rewolutionary indigenous Canaanite pipples. You certainly don't think there was anything wrong with that, do you? Oh, but maybe you think the ancient Jews were Israelites and the modern Jews are "Khazars."
2. Regardless of how long ago Israel was destroyed, is it or is it not Biblical prophecy that it must be reestablished? Is or is not the Jewish G-d the Creator and Ruler of the universe and everyone in it? Or are you one of those enlightenment rationalist types who gets his conservatism from reason and logic rather than Biblical revelation?
Someone insulted you by suggesting you leave the Republican party. Considering the low opinion of the Bible you show on this thread, I suggest you switch to the Communist party.
And I've been a Republican a lot longer than twenty pitiful years, pal.
Doubt it. But we here at Free Republic are a magnanimous lot and realize that you may have mistakenly wandered in here and would like to help you return to your village (they've been bitching and whining about how their idiot ran off):
Considering that Jews and Samaritans were a plurality in 619 and that the Muslim Arabs did not invade until about 640, you need to get a calculator. Try 1300 years. Even then they were not a majority until after the end of the Crusades.
All of the sudden people are in need to protest against Israel but totaly ignoring that Arab state are far worse.
That I call being blind.
Do you suppose that's what they want?
Is that your notion of justice? It seems people have to version of justice. One for the people they like and one for Israel.
I call that anti-Semitism. Not justice.
One day we will all be judged upon.
Genesis 12:
[1] Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: [2] And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: [3] And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
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Isn't there enough land in Israel to accommodate Jewish Israelis? Jewish settlements are illegal because they violate the Fourth Geneva convention, which forbids the occupying power (Israel) from planting colonies of its nationals (Jewish settlers) in the territories it occupies.
Why do you characterize it so? You do not see America's interest in making the decisions she has?
No I don't. Our government's excessive support for Israel has made enemies and led to unnecessary war, death and destruction.
You are misinterpreting the Geneva convention. This is applicable when occupying sovereign land. Palestine is not sovereign, and the west bank is not part of any sovereign state. Therefore, the settlements are not illegal.
It's not my interpretation. I rely on the official position of the Conference of High Contracting Parties To the Fourth Geneva Convention held on July 15th, 1999:
The participating High Contracting Parties reaffirmed the applicability of the Fourth Geneva Convention to the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem. Furthermore, they reiterated the need for full respect for the provisions of the said Convention in that Territory.
No. You rely on The participating High Contracting Parties. That is not all the parties, and specifically excludes those who refused to participate in the conference and/or the position statement.
Unfortunately, they are not a judicial body or an impartial trier of fact. They are a political block which makes decisions based on political considerations. Their pronouncements are not enforceable nor should they be considered fair and impartial considerations of all relevent facts.
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