[Sabertooth]

One issue that would really stir the grass roots is immigration. Look at what has happened in Western Europe. Eleven of 14 Members of the European Economic Community now have right of center governments. And it is possible that total will be 12 this fall if German voters go the way the polls are now suggesting. Immigration was one of the key issues that brought those right of center governments to power. Even the Dutch government intends to curb the liberal lifestyle in that country. The problem is that President Bush has a fundamental disagreement with Representative Tom Tancredo (R-CO) whose views on immigration resonate well with the grass roots. So immigration will not be made an issue by the Republican Party or if it is it will be in the form of President Bush's outreach to the Hispanic community.

President Bush is out of step with a big chunk of the American People, and particulary within his own party, on immigration matters.

If that costs him votes, whose fault is that?

[WRhine]

If that costs him votes, whose fault is that?

That's exactly right Sabertooth. To listen to the RNC loyalists here it will be the fault of conservatives if the Republicans lose the House in Nov. Perhaps they can explain how this is any different than a company’s shareholders blaming the customers of the company for a terrible earnings report instead of management.

Having gone through umpteen elections supporting lesser of evils (RINO) republicans with their condescending attitude towards conservatives I for one have about had it with this party. Maybe a few years in political exile will realign the Republican Party with its grassroots base and sweep out the big government types that are totally out of step with the majority of republican voters. Something has to give because continual compromise with the democrats is what is driving creeping socialism in this country.