[MinorityRepublican]

You have alot to be proud of as well. I consider myself first and foremost an american, but i am also a product of 4000 years of european culture/civiliztion. I just value this too.

The reason I admire Europeans so much is not because they're white, but because of their civilization and how their way of living are able to function in the world for a long time.

Compare that with Africa.

[ellery]

There's a great book that talks about why some groups have had more luck than others in terms of long-term stability, etc. It's called Guns, Germs and Steel -- if you can get past the sometimes mind-numbing detail on early agriculture (I skimmed that part:-)), it's a great read.