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Could Mr. Right be white? [Black women choosing white men]
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 7/13/2

Posted on 07/13/2002 4:41:51 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker

"No, she didn't. . . ."

Natasha Bailey hears the whispered scorn. She spots the dirty looks on the streets. She listens to the lectures from her friends.

The 23-year-old Bailey is an ebony-hued woman with dreads, a baby doll voice and a love of African culture so strong that she joined a West African rites of passage society.

But she's a traitor to some because she's dating Jason Walker, a 22-year-old white man. How could she, her friends ask, given how white men have treated black people.

"I'm the first one to say, OK, let's look at the history," the Atlanta resident says. "But to take that and put that on a person that's right here and now, I can't do that. That's unfair to that person. I judge them as they come."

Bailey represents a quiet revolution taking place among some black women. For years, they've complained about the shortage of eligible black men. Now they're no longer content to vent on "Oprah." If Mr. Right happens to be white, more are willing to cross the color line.

"I'm not going to sit on a porch in a rocking chair, all alone at 80 years old because of color," says Wanda Dunn, a 37-year-old Stone Mountain Web designer. "I don't see it as a turning away from black men but as expanding my options."

When it comes to interracial dating, people have traditionally focused on the taboo nature of black men dating white women. Yet statistics show that more black women are becoming involved with white men.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the number of black female/white male marriages remained relatively static between 1960 and 1980, increasing from 26,000 to 27,000. But by 2000, the number had jumped to 80,000.

Images of black women pairing with white men are now common in popular culture as well. Commercials and music videos are full of such couples. Halle Berry recently won an Oscar for her controversial role in "Monster's Ball," a film in which she plays a waitress who becomes involved with a white man. Berry also played the girlfriend of a white man in another film, "Swordfish." And Angela Basset played the girlfriend of Robert De Niro in "The Score."

Changing the script

The reasons driving black women to flip the dating script are varied. Some of it is simple exposure. Social divisions along color lines remain, but they aren't as rigid. Black women find themselves more in contact with white men in school, at the office and in social settings.

Janice Flowers is the Atlanta coordinator with Pre-Dating Events, a national company that schedules mixers for professionals. She says more black women are telling her that they're willing to date white men.

"Because we're so used to seeing them in social situations, it's becoming less of a taboo," she says.

The reason most often cited, though, for the change in dating attitudes is demographics. A disproportionate number of black men are in jail, or are murder victims. One in every 20 black men older than 18 is in prison, the 2000 Human Rights Watch report concluded. Black teenage males are seven times more likely to be murdered than white teenage males, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported.

The result is that black women face a marriage squeeze. According to the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies in Washington, the percentage of black women who are married declined from 62 percent in 1950 to 36 percent in 2000.

Melanie Robinson, 29, says many black men know the numbers favor them so they have less incentive to treat a black woman well.

"They have their options, so they can pick and choose," the Marietta resident says. "I've just found that there is a lack of appreciation of black women in Atlanta. We come a dime a dozen here."

Robinson, who has dated three white men, says they're more romantic and willing to go on dates like walking in the park or visiting a museum.

"I haven't found any black men trying to take me to the museum," she says. "I wish they would make an effort other than, 'Let's go and have a drink' or 'Let's go to the Red Lobster for all-you-can-eat crab legs on Monday.' "

Another complaint about black men involves insecurity. Black beauty-shop conversations ring with the same complaints from black women who say many black men can't handle an independent, professional black woman who often has more formal education than they do.

At least 60 percent of blacks who get awarded college degrees are women, according to the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education.

Flowers, the Atlanta coordinator with Pre-Dating Events, says a black man backed out of a relationship with her after she purchased a home and he learned that she had a college degree, something he had not earned.

"He said I didn't need him," she says. "It blew me away. I never could get him to see that [his lack of a college degree] was not a hindrance to me."

Black men have traditionally shrugged off these criticisms from black women, saying they are too demanding or obsessed with status and money.

"Even though the numbers may be in Atlanta men's favor, that doesn't make black women in Atlanta any less choosy," says Keith Aikens, a 36-year-old single black man. "Men still have to do a lot to prove themselves worthy."

Aikens, of College Park, says he sympathizes with black women who complain black men don't take them on cultural outings, such as to a museum.

"On the other hand," he says, "how many women are suggesting a museum instead of simply giving in and moving on to the next guy?"

Not an easy road

Once black women begin dating white men, though, hurdles remain. Many of them are internal.

Some wonder if a white man can really understand them, and the effects of racism. Will they draw a blank stare at the first mention of P-funk, nappy hair and playing the dozens?

Bailey has sifted through those fears with Walker and concluded they're overrated. She's had in-depth discussions about slavery, the light skin vs. dark skin caste system among blacks -- all with Walker, a white man.

"I've dated a lot of black men and they don't understand me, either," says Bailey, who is a published writer and a temp worker. "It's all about what you've read, what you've studied. I've dated people who have no understanding of the Middle Passage, colorism, any sort of understanding of the black experience. And they were black."

Sometimes, Bailey added, the fact that a white man is an outsider can be an asset. Often black men succumb to European ideas of beauty, but not her boyfriend. Once, she says, Walker turned to her while she was reading and said, "Your hair looks so beautiful."

"He pierced through my fears and my issues that have to do with blackness," she says. "From my past dealings with brothers, Jason has been more willing and open to see that I am beautiful as is."

Despite the harassment they sometimes get, Bailey says most people don't give her a problem when she accompanies her boyfriend in public.

"We'll get an occasional nasty look, but for the next two looks we get like that, we get a lot of those, 'Oh, look, a happy couple,' " Bailey says.

Yet Robinson, the Marietta resident, voices a fear that black women often have with dating white men. They wonder if white men's interest in dating is driven by sexual curiosity.

"White guys find us exotic," she says. "They want to know how we [have sex], but they aren't going to take us home."

Bailey, however, doesn't worry about those sexual stereotypes driving her relationship with Walker.

"The gist of it is, if we remove sex, we still work," she says about their relationship.

Walker, a computer programmer, says that dating a black woman has made him more sensitive. He often attends reggae clubs with Bailey where he is the only white person in the room.

"It's different being the odd man out," he says. "Actually, what goes through my mind is, I wonder if that's what it's like for her being on the other side of the table."

Even after black women have taken the big step and married a white man, some still wrestle with a residue of guilt. Nicole Smith, a Los Angeles actress, has been married to a white man since 1999. She and her husband, Geoff Cunningham, made a movie about interracial dating, "Rocky Road."

Smith says her sister threatened to never speak to her again after she heard about the marriage. Now her sister has changed after seeing how well her marriage works.

"My sister said that she dreams of having a relationship like ours," Smith says. "That was huge."

Still, Smith sometimes questions if she's being true to her black identity. "I question how much of a conscious black woman I am," she says. "I always keep that dialogue going."

Bailey doesn't appear to have those questions now. She's in love. She says she's decided that compatibility, not color, is what's ultimately important in her relationship.

"I've always understood that you can love your heritage and live your heritage," she says. "But that doesn't mean you close off the rest of the world, especially when you're dealing with matters of love."


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1 posted on 07/13/2002 4:41:51 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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To: NativeNewYorker
No protest from me. Bring on the sista's!!!!
2 posted on 07/13/2002 4:46:22 PM PDT by zarf
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To: zarf
Most inter-race couples I see here in Sodom are black men with white women. They are fairly common, and outnumber the obverse easily 10:1.

White man - oriental woman couples out number the obverse by about 5:1.

Just my observations, in Manhattan.

3 posted on 07/13/2002 4:49:59 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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To: Texaggie79
'Let's go to the Red Lobster for all-you-can-eat crab legs on Monday.'

Haha!

4 posted on 07/13/2002 4:50:24 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: NativeNewYorker
You talking ta me?


5 posted on 07/13/2002 4:50:31 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: NativeNewYorker
This is new? I saw an episode on this same exact theme on Donahue -- 20 years ago!
6 posted on 07/13/2002 4:57:58 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: NativeNewYorker
"I haven't found any black men trying to take me to the museum," she says. "I wish they would make an effort other than, 'Let's go and have a drink' or 'Let's go to the Red Lobster for all-you-can-eat crab legs on Monday.' "

Too funny. I guess I know where I'm going Monday night. I love crab legs.

There is definitely a double standard at work with interracial couples. A black man dates a white women and it doesn't even raise an eyebrow anymore. But if a white man dates a black woman, there is a lot of hostility from black men. Personally, I find black women just as attractive as white women. If I wasn't married, I'd consider a date with someone like Condi Rice in a heartbeat.

7 posted on 07/13/2002 5:02:11 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: NativeNewYorker
He often attends reggae clubs with Bailey where he is the only white person in the room.

I guess Atlanta is different. The one's I've seen are full of white druggies and airheads, maybe a couple of Jamaicans amazed at the scene in the corner. Plus the Jamaicans bathe.

8 posted on 07/13/2002 5:04:02 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: NativeNewYorker
I don't see it in Texas, either. Plenty of white women, black men. None of the other.
9 posted on 07/13/2002 5:05:06 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: NativeNewYorker
One of the nicest "activity partners" I ever had was a black woman.

Like someone posted above: "Bring on the sisters.. Yeah!"

10 posted on 07/13/2002 5:08:08 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: NativeNewYorker
"colorism"

Now that is one ism that I have missed. In an otherwise interesting subject, this one came along and ruined it for me.
11 posted on 07/13/2002 5:11:35 PM PDT by billhilly
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The 23-year-old Bailey ....dating Jason Walker, a 22-year-old white man

CRADLE ROBBER!!!

12 posted on 07/13/2002 5:12:15 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod
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To: NativeNewYorker
I took a black co worker to lunch one time in Montgomery,Al and found out just what black men think. I was ridiculed by a group of black guys and so was she, a fight almost started. People don't hardly blink anymore at the sight of a black man with a white woman. Don't believe me...just try it...ask a black gal to lunch if you are a white guy and you will see curious stares from whites and hateful glares from blacks.
13 posted on 07/13/2002 5:16:22 PM PDT by chasio649
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To: NativeNewYorker
They should call it the Ike Turner Syndrome....after she left Ike, Tina was seen only in the company of white men.
14 posted on 07/13/2002 5:23:37 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: NativeNewYorker
Most inter-race couples I see here in Sodom are black men with white women. They are fairly common, and outnumber the obverse easily 10:1.

True. But when you count married couples, it often goes the other way, white men with black women. I suspect it's very similar to the white men and asian women idea - anything to avoid the feminist-nazi, emasculating, crazy white women who are only looking for a sperm and child-support donor.

15 posted on 07/13/2002 5:24:56 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: NativeNewYorker
If black women are having a hard time finding eligible black men, they could try what many loveless white women have done ... marry visa-clutchin' guys from Pakistan and India.
16 posted on 07/13/2002 5:31:49 PM PDT by AngrySpud
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To: balrog666
i second that...my wife is filipino. She can't understand american women's hostility toward men...it's just not part of her mindset.
17 posted on 07/13/2002 5:36:14 PM PDT by chasio649
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To: balrog666
I am a white man married to a Japanese woman (a real one from Japan, not an 'asian-american'). Racism isn't much of an issue in the states, save for the few good ol' boys who ask me if "it" is sideways.

When we lived in Japan, though, evil stares multiplied in proportion to how far away from the base we were. However, most people were pretty cool about it--like her parents, which was a relief.
18 posted on 07/13/2002 5:37:53 PM PDT by Skwidd
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To: NativeNewYorker
Black folks don't like black women going out with white men. The only thing that I can say is that lots of black men go with white women. If black men have a problem with black women, they shouldn't complain when the black women go looking elsewhere.
19 posted on 07/13/2002 5:40:41 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: NativeNewYorker
A very interesting article. I've read similar articles before, but they usually focus on black man/white woman couples.

As an interracial couple, one of our favorite activities is to count other interracial couples we see while we're out shopping. Our record is 8 couples, seen in a single 1 1/2 hour trip through the grocery store. But then, Austin is different from the rest of Texas in this regard, I suspect.

20 posted on 07/13/2002 5:42:11 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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