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Could Mr. Right be white? [Black women choosing white men]
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 7/13/2

Posted on 07/13/2002 4:41:51 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker

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To: Mark17
Yes, among many others.
161 posted on 07/16/2002 1:07:10 PM PDT by mafree
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To: Clemenza
I can handle the nerdy part... But I have to admit the no breasts and no a-s takes some getting use to... ;-) Most are really sweet and very very considerate! Another interesting fact is that many never need to shave their legs.

I once had the pleasure of spending a week in Ft. Lauderdale in the same hotel with a Brazilian women's team (Can't remember if soccer or vollyball). Wow.. Plenty of a-s on those ladies...

It didn't take long for us guys to learn their routine of showering in the afternoon (about 3 to a room) and then liberaly applying body lotion after getting out totally nude and never bothering to draw the curtians. Lot's of guys were hanging out on the balconies in the late afternoons.

I did make friends with one or two that week! ;-)

162 posted on 07/16/2002 4:03:07 PM PDT by FireTrack
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To: Mark17
Actually she came to me from China. I'll never look at another "Made in China" label the same way again... ;-)
163 posted on 07/16/2002 4:14:41 PM PDT by FireTrack
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To: crystalk
You assume, incorrectly, that light skin and straight(er) hair is universally admired among black people. It is not.

You also assume that black women have babies out of wedlock in a sort of cold-blooded calculation. They do not.

164 posted on 07/16/2002 8:04:53 PM PDT by Rose in RoseBear
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To: Rose in RoseBear
1. On your first point, I was only echoing posters above mine who had repeatedly alleged that, so your quarrel is not with me but with them.

2. On your second point, I agree now, as my post did, with your statement that they DO not look upon this with cool calculation, but that is just the point! I am suggesting that they START doing so!

165 posted on 07/16/2002 8:14:06 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: mhking; Tired of Taxes; Bear_in_RoseBear; Springman; dirtboy
Without realizing it had been posted before, I re-posted this article yesterday. The thread was pulled as "flame bait" despite the fact that there hadn't been any inappropriate posts. Seems like the topic was OK for discussion a couple of weeks ago, so I'm bumping that original thread...
166 posted on 08/09/2002 7:29:57 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: NativeNewYorker
Mixed "race" kids are always so good looking.
167 posted on 08/09/2002 7:35:31 AM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: ellery
He also happened to be black, and he drove a BMW. The guy routinely got stopped several times in one drive from Cleveland to Pittsburgh. He was philosophical about it and didn't complain -- but I was FURIOUS! The widespread victim mentality we all deplore doesn't negate the discrimination people still face...

Right after I got married, I bought a new SAAB. Shortly after that we drove from DC (where we lived at the time) to Gary, then to Crossville, TN, back up to Dayton, then to Atlanta, and finally back to DC. I got a number of stares, and was stopped more than once.

Finally someone in a restaurant asked me, "What's a young fella like you doin' with such a fancy car? What do you do?"

"I work with computers."

"Oh," came the reply. I presume that answered everything. This was in '88, and I was in my mid 20's.

168 posted on 08/09/2002 7:50:27 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Dec31,1999
Mixed "race" kids are always so good looking.

Suppose that bodes well for their future breeding prospects!

169 posted on 08/09/2002 7:53:39 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: mhking
I'll have to find it, but Rick Reilly on CNNSI.com yesterday had an interesting article on black pro athletes that are stopped for "DWB." Seems that Ricky Williams, the new Dolphins running back, has had a lot of problems. Some pretty funny stories in the article. Shame it happens, but certainly doesn't justify anti-profiling measures that shackle police.
170 posted on 08/09/2002 7:55:42 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: Clemenza
When I was in school, I got the inevitable question, "What kind of girls do you like, Mike?" during a conversation that strayed into this area.

Mind you, I had dated a Jewish girl fairly recently at that point, along with several Hispanics and an Oriental or two. I was pursuing/being pursued by a Redskins cheerleader at that point (which case was true depended on who you talked to...).

After a bit of thought, I finally took a sip of my beer and said "I like WOMEN."

The guys continued to badger me. "But what kind, Mike?"

"I only have two qualifications: She's gotta be good looking and she's gotta be smart enough to carry on a reasonably intellectual conversation with me."

I tell my wife to this day, that one of the early things that caught my attention was the fact that she was one of the few women who would actually argue coherently with me.

171 posted on 08/09/2002 7:57:49 AM PDT by mhking
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To: zarf
Both are demanding.

The operative term is "High Maintenance."

172 posted on 08/09/2002 7:59:08 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Wordsmith
Shame it happens, but certainly doesn't justify anti-profiling measures that shackle police.

Agreed.

If we worked from within to change and get rid of those black criminals who end up joining the ranks of those within the legal system, then a lot of the issue will be solved.

But we're left with the "chicken eatin' poverty pimps" masquerading as preachers trying to tell everyone that it's society's fault, instead of demanding some personal accountability for one's actions.

173 posted on 08/09/2002 8:06:45 AM PDT by mhking
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To: NativeNewYorker
When I was single I dated women. Some of them were white, hispanic, asian, middle eastern and black. I didn't date races. I dated women. I never have had any use for someone who wants to date another person BECAUSE of their race. If you want to date someone and you like each other, do it.

I've been out of the dating scene for a while (marriage, you know) but go on photo assignments with a black woman who's about twenty years younger than me, 6 inches taller than me, and very attractive. We get some strange looks, but I've never noticed any hostility. A couple of old codgers have given me the old double raised eyebrows and a wink, but nothing hostile. I do have to admit that it's a little flattering that people think an old geezer like me is running around with this bright, witty attractive woman.

174 posted on 08/09/2002 8:07:14 AM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: Richard Kimball
I didn't date races. I dated women.

Huzzah!

175 posted on 08/09/2002 8:12:52 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: LarryLied
I dated a black guy in high school. He was the nicest guy I've ever dated. We went to his Junior Prom but were denied admittance. The school admin's excuse was that he didn't have a guest pass for me, but from what he found out from his friends is that the policy wasn't enforced for other couples. hmmmmm
176 posted on 08/09/2002 8:15:48 AM PDT by BornOnTheFourth
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To: mhking
Here's the SI article. Shame that the sports media trend liberal, just like the news media.

Color Scheme

If you're a black pro athlete who owns a sweet ride and lives in a ritzy neighborhood in this country, chances are good you've been busted for DWB.

Driving While Black.

"It happens to me all the time, especially in Tampa," says Atlanta Braves outfielder Gary Sheffield, who grew up in Tampa. "I go home to see old friends, and I get stopped. Or if I'm driving slow, looking at my old neighborhood, I get stopped. It never happens in my truck, just in my nice cars."

Denver Broncos defensive tackle Trevor Pryce says an officer followed him home once, pulled him over and said, "I don't think this is your car." And Pryce replied, "Why, because I'm black and driving a Corvette?" Pryce has been pulled over for DWB so many times he has a new strategy. "I pull up right next to cops," he says, "roll down my windows and play my music as loud as I can. Nobody would do that driving a stolen car, right?"

"It's happened to me eight or nine times," says Miami Heat guard Jim Jackson. "I asked one cop in Dallas why he pulled me over, and he goes, 'Oh, we're just doing random checks.' Right. Random checks of black men in nice cars."

When comedian Chris Rock was pulled over on a DWB, he jokes, "It scared me so bad, I thought I had stolen my car!"

Three times this summer, Miami Dolphins running back Ricky Williams says, Fort Lauderdale police have stopped or hassled him for nothing more than the color of his skin.

"One cop pulled me over for no other reason than I was a black man driving an expensive car [a Hummer]," says Williams, the former Heisman Trophy winner who moved to south Florida after being traded to the Dolphins in March. "They said later it was because my tags were expired. But it was a handwritten temporary license they couldn't possibly have been able to see. For that they call the drug dogs and I get handcuffed?" The stop and search lasted an hour and a half, Williams says, and then he was ticketed for expired tags and for not having his driver's license and proof of insurance in his possession.

Twice cops have knocked on his front door to tell him his garage was open, Williams says, and then asked him for proof that he owned his cars. They questioned him about what he did for a living and how much he paid for the cars. It's the kind of frustration that white athletes never have to deal with.

Williams has started taking the long way to work so he doesn't have to drive past a police station. Other guys just give up and drive crappy cars. Sometimes these guys don't even have to be in a car.

"You go into a Tiffany's in the mall," says Jackson, "and right away you notice the lights [brighten]. Then the clerk follows you around, pretending she's just cleaning up. I came out of a restaurant once and the valet goes, 'Man, what did you do to get a car like this?' I was like, 'I got a job, that's what I did!'"

The dreadlocked Williams says that when he flies first class, more times than not attendants ask to see his ticket, assuming he's in the wrong seat. Houston Rockets forward Glen Rice wasn't allowed to check into a five-star hotel by a woman behind the desk who insisted, "I know what you're about."

"What am I about?" asked Rice, who refused to leave until he was given a room. The desk clerk called police, who recognized Rice and advised the woman to give him a room. That's when Rice said no thanks and walked out.

Says Jackson, "I don't think most of white America understands how it feels. You work hard to be successful, to get some nice things, and people treat you like you stole them."

"I guess cops think we're drug dealers," says Latrell Sprewell, the New York Knicks guard. "It pisses you off, but what pisses you off more is that when they see who you are, they suddenly change it to, 'Uh, I pulled you over to, uh, can I have your autograph?'"

When you mix cops with young men who feel persecuted, things can get volatile. "I feel myself boiling over," says Jackson. "But if I started yelling at the cops, next thing you know, I'd be in jail." Or worse. Remember the four young unarmed black men on their way to a basketball tryout who were profiled by troopers and stopped on the New Jersey Turnpike, then had 11 shots fired into their van, wounding three of them?

Williams was so frustrated by his treatment after one DWB stop that he started to walk home in protest, got a block and a half, then sat down on a curb and cried. "It hurts your feelings," he says. "Nobody likes to be treated like a criminal."

And we wonder why so many black athletes are angry.

177 posted on 08/09/2002 8:22:12 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: mhking
Grrr...that makes me so mad. I saw Al Sharpton on with Bill O' Reilly, talking about racial profiling. I think Al is a slickster, but for some reason I kinda like him. Anyway, Bill was citing stats in support of profiling, and Al just smiled and said, "C'mon, Bill, you know that if black people are stopped disproportionally, then black people will be caught committing crime disproportionally." Bill had to agree -- can't argue with that math.

PS: I was also driving around a Saab in '88 (in fact, I still am). I didn't get any stares at all out in rural Western PA (aside from dirty looks from folks who think I should have been driving an American car:-)).
178 posted on 08/09/2002 8:23:11 AM PDT by ellery
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To: Wordsmith
Shame that the sports media trend liberal, just like the news media.

A fair number do, but Reilly is just an ass from the word go. (He's just as bad in person, too) This is one of his milder columns.

Give me Frank Deford any day.

179 posted on 08/09/2002 8:27:26 AM PDT by mhking
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To: ellery
"C'mon, Bill, you know that if black people are stopped disproportionally, then black people will be caught committing crime disproportionally."

Wow, that's an interesting argument I haven't specifically come across before. Turns it into a chicken-or-the-egg question. Are more blacks stopped because proportionately blacks commit more crime, or are more blacks caught for crime because more blacks are stopped?

180 posted on 08/09/2002 8:28:32 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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