To: Ligeia
How exactly can you serve with honor if you are a slave? I can understand free slaves at the time serving with honor but not slaves. They are little more then property with no choice in the matter. Its like thinking that a slave can have consent to her masters sexual desires. If you do not have freedom for yourself you cannot have consent.
To: Libertarian_4_eva
Your point is valid.
But now it is up to us to honor his contributions, and the other confederate veterans that served so valiantly. I know the cause of the civil war has been debated here ad nauseum, but it really boiled down to economics. I'd like to use the analogy of the U.S. today. What if an outside entity, dictated that we discotinued all of our industrial and technological sectors, and became a service only econony? It would collapse, unless we fought for it. Simply stated, it boiled down to survival.
BTW... of my five confederate ancestors, none owned slaves
To: Libertarian_4_eva
A slave could serve with honor simply by serving faithfully when others had faith in him. The concept isn't hard at all for me to understand. In my home town there is a monument to slaves of that era who proved to the cynical northerners that a slave isn't a savage and has a mind and a soul of his own. They proved this by disregarding the blandishments of those fanatics who urged slaves to rise up and kill their owners before and during the war and to band together with the "liberators" after the war and help them loot the conquered states.
I guess that someone who views the Confederate cause as evil would be unable to see how a man would have no claim to honor in following orders if his status was that of a slave. I see it differently. Being enslaved did not rob these men of their humanity nor of their value as human beings. Only the man himself can do that.
Look at it this way: when a slaveowner placed a rifle in the hands of a slave, knowing full well that the slave has been exposed to the propaganda that a war is being fought to free him, then that slaveowner is placing a lot of faith in the honor and humanity of the man he arms in that way. A betrayal of that faith would be unconscionable to an honorable man whether he's a slave or a free man.
The author chooses to say that the man was "forced to serve" instead of saying that he was "ordered to serve" or even "asked to serve". There'a a reason for that. The author has a very clear bias which is readily apparent. Do a search for what else she's written. That can give you an idea of whether or not she's a writer you could trust.
20 posted on
07/14/2002 5:29:39 AM PDT by
Twodees
To: Libertarian_4_eva
How exactly can you serve with honor if you are a slave? I can understand free slaves at the time serving with honor but not slaves. They are little more then property with no choice in the matter. Its like thinking that a slave can have consent to her masters sexual desires. If you do not have freedom for yourself you cannot have consent. You are suggesting that those who are forced to pay taxes are without honour as well?
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42 posted on
07/15/2002 1:31:31 PM PDT by
archy
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