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To: tpaine
I generally agree with your views tpaine, but I'd like to voice a bit of open disagreement here. Personally, I believe life begins at conception. For me, the existence of a unique entity who will be born barring interference is enough. But I understand that many people (perhaps the majority) take your view, which I've copied/pasted below:

At some point, near viablity, so conceded. But a womans egg, fertilised in the lab, is obviously not a being with rights. Therefore, it is a moral dilemma as to exactly when a developing fetus has rights that supersedes its mothers.

The problem seems to be determining at what point "life" begins. I view the nine or so months spent in gestation as a continuum, so it's difficult to pinpoint that exact time. With that in mind, isn't the most moral course of action one that advocates - to a certainty - no violation of the child's rights? And isn't the only certain assumption one that says life begins at conception?

72 posted on 07/14/2002 5:51:39 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
I generally agree with your views tpaine, but I'd like to voice a bit of open disagreement here. Personally, I believe life begins at conception. For me, the existence of a unique entity who will be born barring interference is enough. But I understand that many people (perhaps the majority) take your view, which I've copied/pasted below:

At some point, near viablity, so conceded. But a womans egg, fertilised in the lab, is obviously not a being with rights. Therefore, it is a moral dilemma as to exactly when a developing fetus has rights that supersedes its mothers.

The problem seems to be determining at what point "life" begins. I view the nine or so months spent in gestation as a continuum, so it's difficult to pinpoint that exact time. With that in mind, isn't the most moral course of action one that advocates - to a certainty - no violation of the child's rights? And isn't the only certain assumption one that says life begins at conception?

Certainly, a unique life begins at conception. -- But why would human rights immediately begin that supersede those of its mother? -- As I said at #33:

An egg is not a being, nor is a sperm. -- Combining them in a lab is not an act of creation. Months of gestation are necessary before a viable human being, with individual rights exists.
- So our existing law reasons.
I've seen no better solution to this moral dilemma over mother/baby rights. -- Nor have I seen one from any one else .

79 posted on 07/14/2002 8:41:40 AM PDT by tpaine
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