[Torie]

It was a rather messy election as I recall. As I recall, some post election activities proved necessary. But hey, I am not here to try to persuade you of anything. Have a good evening.

[junta]

Good evening to you and a recommendation to go and read "Albions Seed." By reading Fischer's work you will get a better understanding of the "shining city on a hill" idea and from where and whom it came from, and it certainly does not mesh with your neo-con Machivellian snugglefest with the Left's "diversity" farce. The "shining city" shtick is as worn as the "all men are created equal" shtick and to try and pass it off to anybody but bumpkins is vain overreach to the point of farce.