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To: DugwayDuke
Please forgive my attemps at understatement and subtlety. Your perserverance deserves better.

The Brittish gave Goebells lessons in effective propaganda. Truely effect propaganda does as intended without notice. The Britts convinced us with help of Pres. Wilson to sacrifice our treasury and our young men for the preservation of UK hegemony.

As for my comparisons, Hitler vs. Stalin and Tojo vs. Mao, without the connivance of Churchhill and FDR, would have been moot.
If we would have kept out of WWII, Stalin would have been overthrown and would not have been able to arm Mao. Hitler would have found Mother Russia indigestible and his socialist empire would have fallen apart by 1950, if not sooner.

As far as the Japanese are concerned, they killed fewer Chinese than Mao, and they would have been less a threat than the ChiComms are now. Without the goading of FDR and our trade embargo, they would have had no quarrel with us.

"Since the British Empire was so evil, would you care to explain how it's dissolution lead to peace, prosperity, and universal brotherhood through out the world?

Do you mean the British Empire that introduced the international trade in opium, pushed us into WWI, abandoned its colonies in the Indian subcontinent and Africa to anarchy? The reference to civilian concentration camps was not gratuitous, it was practiced during the Boer War.

Gratuitousness is epitomized by your continual references to Clinton. Clinton, was and is, an ass. As indicated by my reference to glass, I did not have his half and quarter measures in mind.

As far as service is concerned, I put in my eight years of obligation that ended with nine months in France in '61-'62.

171 posted on 07/21/2002 2:08:44 PM PDT by rightofrush
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To: rightofrush
You speculations on alternative histories are merely that, speculation. One can build all sorts of theortical possibilities since one does not have to be constrained in any practical sense.

"Do you mean the British Empire that introduced the international trade in opium, pushed us into WWI, abandoned its colonies in the Indian subcontinent and Africa to anarchy? The reference to civilian concentration camps was not gratuitous, it was practiced during the Boer War."

I was well aware of the concentration camps during the Boer War. I'm not historically illiterate. Focusing on a few reprehensible outcomes does not establish that the world would have been a better place without the British Empire or it's dissolution made this world better. Even you admit that it's removal from India and Africa produced unfortunate outcomes.

"Gratuitousness is epitomized by your continual references to Clinton. Clinton, was and is, an ass. As indicated by my reference to glass, I did not have his half and quarter measures in mind."

I was not referring to Clinton, per se, but to the idea that airpower or cruise missiles has evolved to the point that it can replace boots on the ground. After every war, we find that it has not. But, what did you have in mind, nuclear weapons?

"As far as service is concerned, I put in my eight years of obligation that ended with nine months in France in '61-'62."

Then my apologies. I made the same error you did. You beat me to active duty by about eight years. I did spend eight years active and another 14 in the Guard.
173 posted on 07/21/2002 7:23:18 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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