As a college history professor I suddenly feel enlightened by your post. I'll immediately change my curriculm - contact hundreds/thousands of my former American History students - revoke my publications - trash my books in progress - and throw away all primary documentation because they most likely are forgeries.
Do you think that I have never heard comments such as yours? They only make me feel better about what I put out in the classroom....
opps, hate to run...but I have to get to class - Today's Lesson: "The Founding Father's Deep Religious Principles and the Impact of Judeao Christianity and God on the American Idea of Liberty."
...nothing new here, move along...
Thank you for setting me straight!If you're a history scholar involved in the "is America a Christian Nation?" debate, you certainly have to be aware of the work of David Barton. Indeed, your initial post used one of the quotes that his original work publicized. The link I provided is Barton himself admitting that he can't document the quotes.As a college history professor I suddenly feel enlightened by your post. I'll immediately change my curriculm - contact hundreds/thousands of my former American History students - revoke my publications - trash my books in progress - and throw away all primary documentation because they most likely are forgeries.
Do you think that I have never heard comments such as yours? They only make me feel better about what I put out in the classroom....
opps, hate to run...but I have to get to class - Today's Lesson: "The Founding Father's Deep Religious Principles and the Impact of Judeao Christianity and God on the American Idea of Liberty."
Since you used one of the quotes, I assumed you hadn't seen the Barton admission. They come up from time to time, which is why I keep that link handy.
No one is denying that most of the Founders and Framers were Christians, and certainly a number of them weren't shy about expressing it. But it's also true that most of those didn't believe in mixing government and religion, for both philosophical and practical reasons. Others disagreed, and attempted to insert some acknowledgement of Christianity into the Constitution. This attempt of course failed.
Those who believed in separation certainly would have rejected the idea that religion and patriotism should be mixed, which was the original premise of this thread.
-Eric