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YOUNGER GENERATION NON-CATHOLIC CHRISTIANS REJECTING BIRTH CONTROL
LifeSite Daily News ^ | 7/12/02

Posted on 07/13/2002 8:23:25 AM PDT by Polycarp

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1 posted on 07/13/2002 8:23:25 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Siobhan; JMJ333; Domestic Church; Dumb_Ox; Aquinasfan; maryz; SoothingDave; Aunt Polgara; ...
Truth ping
2 posted on 07/13/2002 8:23:58 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: RnMomof7; drstevej
FYI:

The Washington Times
www.washtimes.com

Being fruitful

Robert Stacy McCain
THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published 7/11/2002

     Sam and Bethany Torode oppose contraception. They say it interferes with the "one flesh" nature of marriage declared in the Bible.
     No one can accuse the Torodes of failing to practice what they preach. Their son Gideon was born almost exactly nine months after their November 2000 wedding.
     "We don't waste any time," says Mr. Torode, 26, of South Wayne, Wis. He and his 21-year-old wife are expecting their second child in February.
     The Catholic Church condemns contraception as "intrinsically evil," but the Torodes are not Catholic. They are part of a new generation of young Protestants who disdain birth control and favor larger families.
     "A lot of people grew up without realizing there was an alternative to the dominant contraceptive lifestyle," says Mr. Torode, art and design editor of Touchstone, a Christian magazine.
     In their new book, "Open Embrace: A Protestant Couple Rethinks Contraception," the Torodes declare they want a "passel" of children, and they are not alone. Christian Internet sites such as www.quiverfull.com advocate large families based on Psalm 127:5: "As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them."
     Many evangelical Protestants in the pro-life movement have large families. Tennessee pro-life activist Charles Wysong and his wife, Brenda, have 15 children; Arkansas state Rep. Jim Bob Duggar and his wife, Michelle, have 13; Virginia home-schooling leader Michael Farris and his wife, Vickie, have 10.
     The evangelical journal Christianity Today began questioning family limits in 1991, asking, "Is Birth Control Christian?" In 2001, the magazine ran an article by the Torodes: "Make Love and Babies," along with a rebuttal by Eastern College biblical studies professor Raymond Van Leeuwen.
     "To suggest that birth control is evil or perverse," Mr. Van Leeuwen wrote, "because it undermines God's sovereignty is to underestimate God's sovereignty and reject our responsibility to serve Him wisely."
     The Christian Research Journal took on the topic in an 1996 article by Michigan Theological Seminary professor Wayne House. "Many [couples] are more than willing to enjoy sexual relations with no procreation responsibilities, yet the [biblical] text indicates that childbearing is a very real part of the purpose of God in creating male and female," he wrote.
     It was not until the 20th century that Protestant churches endorsed birth control. Martin Luther and other early Protestant reformers "believed in abundant fertility," says Allan Carlson, president of the Howard Center for the Family, Religion and Society in Rockford, Ill. "He condemned contraception and abortion in the strongest possible terms. Specifically, he thought [God's blessing for Adam and Eve in Genesis 1:28] to 'be fruitful and multiply' was a divine command."
     Prior to the 1900s, Mr. Torode says, most Protestants opposed birth control for the same reasons expressed by Pope Paul VI in his July 1968 encyclical "Humanae Vitae."
     "They believed contraception would increase promiscuity and encourage adultery by separating sex from procreation," he says.
     But after the Church of England approved birth control at its 1930 Lambeth Conference, "all Protestant denominations went on to endorse contraception, except for a few groups like the Amish," he says. Protestants "were following the spirit of the age. They were influenced by people like [Planned Parenthood founder] Margaret Sanger."
     By the 1980s, acceptance of birth control was so widespread that tubal ligation — surgical sterilization of women, now America's No. 1 contraceptive method — became routine for women after having two or three children.
     "After my mom had my [younger] sister, who is her third child, the nurse actually prepped her for a tubal ligation without her consent, but the doctor intervened — he was a Christian, too," Mrs. Torode says. "My mom was pretty groggy and she didn't even know what was going on."
     The Torodes endorse the Natural Family Planning (NFP) practices advocated by the Catholic pro-life Couple to Couple League, but most Americans don't know about NFP because the medical community almost unanimously endorses artificial birth control, Mr. Torode says. "It's so hard to get honest information. It's hard to find doctors who encourage large families."
     The national trend toward smaller families has had profound consequences, Mr. Carlson says. Out-of-wedlock births — 33 percent of all U.S. babies last year were born to unmarried women — have become a troubling statistic, partly because the marital fertility rate has declined by more than 40 percent in the past 45 years.
     Marital fertility is "the most important indicator of social health," Mr. Carlson says. "It's important because it embodies two critical measures of social health: the desire of young adults to marry and to procreate new life."
     The Torodes base their opposition to artificial birth control on Genesis 2:24: "Therefore, shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
     "God created marriage, sex and children to go together," Mr. Torode says. "There's the concept of the husband and wife becoming one flesh. And children are a gift that God bestows on that union. Contraception puts up a barrier in the middle of the union."
     "We believe that husband and wife should hold nothing back from each other," he says, "and children are pretty much the natural result of that kind of love."
     The Torodes' love began with a whirlwind courtship after 18-year-old college sophomore Bethany Patchin published an August 1999 article arguing that Christians should not kiss before marriage.
     Her article in Focus on the Family's online journal Boundless (www.boundless.org) prompted Mr. Torode to reply with a letter that accused Bethany of trying to "drive young Christian men mad with desire" by boasting she had never been kissed. She now concedes there was perhaps "subconsciously" some truth in his charge.
     After exchanging e-mails, the two met in January 2000. They were engaged that May and married six months later.
     Mr. Torode now laughs at the irony of his letter to Boundless: "I can see the love letters pouring in now, from saps all over the country, proposing to poor Miss Patchin. Never underestimate reverse psychology," he wrote then.
     "Then I wound up being the sap that fell for it," he says now, "because we did get married and we didn't kiss until our wedding day."
     When the couple looked for books about contraception, they found that few modern Protestant authors had addressed the topic — so they decided to write their own book.
     "We're not trying to impose our views on others," Mrs. Torode says. "We're just putting an alternative out there, because a lot of people don't even realize all the options they have."

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3 posted on 07/13/2002 8:41:20 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
A much better article on the same subject is here.
4 posted on 07/13/2002 8:42:31 AM PDT by independentmind
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To: Polycarp
Funny I have not noticed this trend. The problem with birth control is that the smarter people use it and the dumber ones don't which leads to the stupid genes reproducing themselves more.
5 posted on 07/13/2002 9:36:47 AM PDT by weikel
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To: Polycarp
So what they're saying is that pretty much every Protestant sect and the Orthodox has gotten it wrong since they all decided to turn pro-birth control in the 1930s?

Vindicated and truth-does-not-have-to-keep-up-with-the-times bump.
6 posted on 07/13/2002 9:49:30 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Polycarp
My link in #4 didn't work for some reason. Here is the article to which I was referring:

Contraceptive Emotional and Personality Damage in Women

7 posted on 07/13/2002 9:54:41 AM PDT by independentmind
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To: weikel
i've noticed that unfortunate trend also.
8 posted on 07/13/2002 9:55:20 AM PDT by contessa machiaveli
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To: Conservative til I die
>So what they're saying is that pretty much every Protestant sect and the Orthodox has gotten it wrong since they all decided to turn pro-birth control in the 1930s?

Wouldn't be the first time.

9 posted on 07/13/2002 12:52:20 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Polycarp
Well Duh!

they ignored it years ago, and they still ignore it. the only differance is the taboo is gone.
10 posted on 07/13/2002 12:59:29 PM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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To: Polycarp
Maybe that's because when you decouple coitus from conception you begin to name a baby a fetus; dehumanizing first, so that guilt is diminished when inconvenience leads you to want to destroy your offspring.
11 posted on 07/13/2002 1:06:02 PM PDT by Aedammair
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To: weikel
The problem with birth control is that the smarter people use it and the dumber ones don't which leads to the stupid genes reproducing themselves more.
Given that my wife and I don’t use birth control, I appreciate your insightful classification of us as dumber. Interestingly enough, as I read your post my four year old was at the table doing his math, which given my interests in math it appears I have “reproduced myself more”.

Might we assume your parents, at least at one point, did not use birth control?

patent  +AMDG

13 posted on 07/13/2002 1:40:14 PM PDT by patent
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To: patent
Im talking in general I don't think your an idiot. My point was basically that ghetto crackwhores don't often use birth control.
14 posted on 07/13/2002 1:45:20 PM PDT by weikel
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To: weikel
;-)
15 posted on 07/13/2002 1:53:07 PM PDT by patent
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To: Polycarp; weikel; patent; swarthyguy; All
I think in essence the whole issue of large families being 'right' because the bible says 'prosper and multiply' is taking something and twisting it completely. Most people cannot handle 4 kids let alone 14 ......and unless someone is able to provide for the offspring emotionally, physically, spiritually, intellectually and financially then bringing so many kids into the world should be classified as 'cruel and unusual punishment!'

People, in my opinion, should not have more children than they can be able to nurture (and afford) with a high degree of efficacy. And EVEN if the couple has the bank account of Bill Gates, the compassion of Mother Teressa and the love of an angel does not mean they should go ahead and have 10, 12, 15 kids! I know some people may disagree with me (and even flame me) but imagine what would happen if every one decided to have 8 kids per family! That concept is simply not self-sustaining.

And as for using Biblical allusions to justify large families i can also say that logic is shot! For example it is obvious that God created food for our nourishment and pleasure! HOWEVER that is NOT green light for people to 'go forth and become as gluttons!'

Thus everything has limits. And for sure God did not intend for people to go and have 7 kids when they can only manage to nurture and afford 1 kid! Birth control can help MOST people plan their families since it can give them a good degree of protection against unwanted pregnancies and thus a modicum of control on how they raise their families and how large the families become.

And while it is true there are hundreds of thousands who can plan their families without the need of any type of 'artificial' birth control, the fact is that there are Billions more who cannot plan their families without artificial birth control.

And for groups like the Catholic church to go to places like Latin America and sub-Saharan Africa and tell those people that using birth control is 'intrinsic sin' to me is not only illogical but irresponsible!

Telling those people, the majority of which have extremely limited income by any standards, to refuse contraception, and knowing very well that they are married and will obviously have sex, is not only an atrocious dilemma impossed on them by some Vatican 7,000 miles away but just plain wrong! Do they expect a poor Brazilian woman to refuse her husband for a week every month because that is when she is most fertile and doesn't want to get pregnant! And note these are very patriachal cultures that are quite chauvanistic! That lady could easily go and pick up some free birth control pills which are offered by several NGOs (or as in several African nations get tubal ligation), but sadly her church tells her such acts consort with the Devil!

And the funny thing is even if her husband respected her enough to lay off sex when she is most fertile, and she planned her cycle well, the chances of her getting pregnant are very high....simply because the 'natural' type of birth control is an 'art' and its failure rate is quite high. Kind of like playing Russian roulette!

Anyway it just annoys me when a group (maybe Cabal is a better term) of people who have no understanding of what it is to have many kids in Latin America or Africa go ahead and tell their faithful to not use birth control because it is an 'intrinsic sin.'

To me such a statement is a sin!

16 posted on 07/13/2002 2:29:17 PM PDT by spetznaz
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Well Bill Gates could have 15 children and just hire servants if your poorer than Bill Gates 15 kids is a really bad idea.
17 posted on 07/13/2002 2:30:53 PM PDT by weikel
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To: patent
I guess so! Good answer! I can't believe people on here can be so small-minded and uncouth! No, you're not dumb. Before there was such thing as contraception, or at least the artificial type, lots of 'smart' people were having big families!

Look at some of our founding fathers' families, as well as many intellectuals through the ages. Most of them had at the minimum of 4 or 5; as well as many of our immediate ancestors. And many of our older generation around now. The ones who had less, wished they could have more. Of course that's only an example. There were, and still are many, many smart people in this world who had lots of kids. They believed in a notion of : "Be fruitfull, and multiply!"
18 posted on 07/13/2002 8:51:39 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: spetznaz
The problem is that you do not see the world through the eyes of FAITH. If I were to expound, chances are you still wouldn't get it.

And no one said that everyone can or should have 10-15 kids.

AMDG

19 posted on 07/13/2002 8:55:20 PM PDT by oremus
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