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It is, and the drug war, as much as anything is to blame. The drug war being the modern incarnation of the Temperance movement, which replaced individual responsibilty with "social" laws that restricted activites and mere possesion of things on the grounds that those activities and things are sometimes, even often, dangerous, while leaving no allowance for appropriate use by responsible people.

Are prisons are full of people who have never committed a felony -- by the truer and older understanding of what that word means.

Here in this case, mere possesion of pornography -- with no evidence, testimony as to how it was used -- is compelling enough for many to hang a man. We used to distinquish violations of soical mores from criminal felonies, but now the chamberpot also serves as the soup pot -- in our criminal law, every "social" violation is in it.

"Temperance" meant that the individual was subsumed to society, and failure to toe a current social line means one is felonious, that social "feelings" weigh more than evidence and the testimony of reliable witnesses.

Twas, once in a golden era in that regard, that the individual was king of his own actions and responsibility. That other men and women respected the individual, even when he colored outside of the normal social lines. As long as no violence was done, no contracts broken, no thefts occurred. No longer.

Coloring outside the lines is now adequate indication of evil. Yes, Mr. Westerfield, you shal be hung for closing your curtains, for driving around at whimsy, for leaving you house out -- those are serious social violations, Mr. Wesetrfield and society can no longer abide your life within it.

It would be a 1 in a what chance of them just "catching" a guy who has child porn and danielles blood, print, fiber, hair, dog hairs. (everybody's dad, uncle and brother has porn) How many other neighbors houses was she in? Will feldman provide future witnesses that can prove that it was common for her to bleed drops of blood randomly in neighbors houses, auto's, suvs and motorhomes etc? If not, he darn well should have done that if he's going to say it was cuz she was in his house or MH. Will her hair be in their masterbedrooms too? How much of layla's hair is in neighborhood houses or vehices? What would tape lifts reveal?

We had a guy on the radio this morning that said if a defendant told his defense atty he's innocent or not guilty of these charges...the attorney will act accordingly.. For example, If he told feldman that he did it, following the rules, Feldman will NOT stand in front of the jury and say DW did NOT do it. I can't remember whether Feldman said to the jury that his client is innocent during opening statements?

We have a guy on trial for contacting women via the internet..he was into bondage. He'd use them, kill them and then stuff their bodies, including a child and her mom into 55 gallon drums and 'stored them' in his pond and an area storage business. (Ucansee, was it a pond or lake? I think it was the pond where his trailor was?) He's pretty much toast. There are numerous cases where one thinks "I hope he's not guilty" or "he can't be guilty" or "he has to be guilty". This case is of course not like the serial killer who was into bondage..the evidence is smaller in size and because of publicity and internet sleuths..we have questions and it's not easy to say "he's gotta be guilty or he's gotta be innocent". (thank God they found Danielle's body because it did reveal tons of information)

To be honest about the people on these threads..not society in general (thinking about what mizs just wrote).....the constant posting about sex swaps, the encyclopedia posts about swinging etc., and all the speculations about what could have happened between dvd and danielle leaves others with the same sense of disbelief as some of you have. You obviously know that..but I would like more honesty amongst those few, (3-4) who consider themselves to be the "Know =it= alls, and everyone else knows nothing and must be liberals (clintonese tactics as I've said a 100 times--it's a big injustice in and of itself)". Talk about being completely closed minded. I understand the lack of complete faith in the justice system (Randy Weaver and waco come to mind as partial causes of the complete lack of faith and trust) I do NOT understand the inability to allow for different opinions and interpretations during discussion.

So, we have on these threads questions, the majority of posters have tolerance for different interpretations and we have different conclusions, interpretations and tactics. That's normal, so i don't see a problem. We're not all braindead..the threads are evidence of CREATING and thinking..minus the garbage in and garbage out crappola.