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Judge Allows Danielle's Dad Back In Court: (Damon was banned for MAD-DOGGING Westerfield!)
North County Times-San Diego ^
| July 13, 2002
| Kimberly Epler
Posted on 07/13/2002 6:28:25 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: cyncooper
Good to know. Have never seen her before I started to watch this trial. Thanks.
When I say she is the most fair I'm only talking about her coverage on this trial.
641
posted on
07/14/2002 9:45:45 PM PDT
by
gigi
To: cyncooper
If the dog DNA don't fit, you must acquit!
To: gigi; Henrietta
Most lawyers are "that way". LOL
Henrietta, I said MOST.
To: All
Forgot about this question from PH..BVD by Feldman..
12 Q YOU'RE AWARE THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT
13 INTERVIEWED YOUR OTHER CHILDREN; IS THAT RIGHT?
14 A YES.
15 Q IS IT CORRECT THAT YOUR DAUGHTER DANIELLE
16 GOT IN TROUBLE BECAUSE SHE WOULD LEAVE THE HOUSE AND
17 NOT COME BACK UNTIL YOU FOUND HER ON OTHER
18 OCCASIONS?
19 A NO.
20 Q ONE OF YOUR CHILDREN'S NAME IS DYLEN; IS
21 THAT CORRECT, MA'AM?
22 A YES.
23 Q HAVE YOU TALKED TO DYLEN ABOUT WHETHER OR
24 NOT HE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT
25 CONCERNING YOUR DAUGHTER'S ACTIVITIES?
26 MR. DUSEK: OBJECTION; IMPROPER IMPEACHMENT.
27 MR. FELDMAN: I'LL WITHDRAW THE QUESTION.
644
posted on
07/14/2002 9:58:19 PM PDT
by
Rheo
To: Rheo
I've been reading the bug man's testimony. Dusek seemed to be hinting at weather differences before and after the 16th. In otherwords, was the weather so hostel that the flys had to wait until about the 16th, even though he thinks the body was there from the 2d or 3d? Can we find weather data that shows that the average temperature was about the same or cooler from 2 to 15 verses the 16 to 28 time period? What days (if any) had significant rain? I think the housing development and golf course nearby really kill the aurgument anyway, but I find it interesting, none the less.
To: John Jamieson
graphsLooks like it rained on the 17th.
To: Rheo
I found enough data to do my own calculations:
All data is from Miramar about 20 to 30 miles from Dehesa, closest I could find!
for 2/2 to 2/15:
Average temp 56F(13.3C)
Average dew point 34(1.1C)
Relative Humidity Calc = 44%
For 2/16 to 2/28:
Average temp 58.6F (14.8C)
Average dew point 44.5(7.0C)
Relative Humidity Calc = 60%
Conclusions: The temperature in late Feb was a little higher as you would expect. The first part of Feb was very dry, maybe causing the mumification. The humidity in late Feb was wetter (although still dry by most standards).
The most interesting thing I found: The only day it rained was Feb 17th (.17 inches)! Facts is facts.
To: John Jamieson
The only day it rained was Feb 17th (.17 inches)! Facts is facts. Ya think Dusek wants to claim the rain killed off the beetles ?
To: All
Everyone should feel sorry for David Westerfield.
All those strange magical forces came together to form a unfortunate, unprecedented case of absolutely incredible coincidental bad luck that decided to fall on Dave and crush him. He's the unluckiest man in the history of criminal trials.
Fingerprints, DNA, blood, fibers, dirty dancing, girl scout cookie selling, bleach smells, bar meetings, zig zag desert trip, illegal porno collecting etc, all coming down against him in a horrible coincidental avalanche of misfortune....
Dave now tops O.J. for the unluckiest of ALL TIME. It's just terrible. You have our sympathy Dave.
To: Greg Weston
You're getting there Greg Weston. All those things can and have been reasonably explained, and most are absolutely innocent in any circumstance, even without any explanation. Are your shades drawn? Is you hose out?
For Westerfield's lynch mob those mundane questions became the most grave accusations.
650
posted on
07/15/2002 5:45:11 AM PDT
by
bvw
To: gigi
gigi, EXCELLENT work! CTV and Beth Karas need to do a retraction, and Whorealdo does too.
Misstating the facts in this case to the general uninformed public is going to cause a great deal of harm to the Defense.
So what is the big deal about DW telling LE, when he was with them that "this would be a good place to dump a body"..?
Pure speculation, but a good one.
As far as I'm concerned, I didn't do it!
sw
651
posted on
07/15/2002 5:45:14 AM PDT
by
spectre
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Kim, Rick Roberts was correct about the parents. When this trial is over, you are going to hear just about everything you never wanted to know about HOW BAD they actually are. Information that was NOT allowed to be introduced in this trial because of the GAG order OR Judge Mudd's decision to only go back "so far" with the evidence Feldman has against these two.
If DW is convicted, he has the right to appeal, and by then, oh yes...by then, we will know much more about Damon and Brenda.
They'll be all over the air-ways blabbing about themselves...but so will others.
You obviously have not listened to the talk shows, where most of the guests are concluding the Van Dams life style "invited" trouble into their home...
I think it's way past time for the Defense to get a Forensic Psychologist as a witness for the Defense...
The Prosecution is afraid to do it!
sw
652
posted on
07/15/2002 6:03:05 AM PDT
by
spectre
To: the Deejay
Morning DJ;
Now what idiot cop would insinuate("only the killer would know") such a statement about the dance??
Could be the same cop that gave us the "overwhelming bleach"in the MH scenario,the "throughly cleaned" MH. "the dog with a heck of a nose" find a scent of the perp in Danielle's bedroom,cop.
653
posted on
07/15/2002 6:09:10 AM PDT
by
BARLF
To: BARLF
Or the same cop(s) that only went after DW for the porn initially...that being the first Search Warrant filed on the 5th. I wonder what gave them the idea in the first place?
Things that make ya go "hmmmmmmm...."
To: ItsOurTimeNow
Yeah, there is a great many hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm's in this case.DW may be guilty as charged but "as far as I am concerned" the prosecution hasn't proved it yet.
655
posted on
07/15/2002 6:33:47 AM PDT
by
BARLF
To: John Jamieson
JJ, check the Feb Weather page for temps at Dehesa/ El Cajon for the month.
Stealth Ninja Dave
656
posted on
07/15/2002 6:43:45 AM PDT
by
Jaded
To: Jaded; All
To: John Jamieson
Thanks JJ, I had already tried rebooting...and I was trying to reply to your reboot post, when the the cable went down. BUMMMER!!! It just now came back on.. ...am watching the trafficant and the ethics committee battle it out right now
To: BARLF
Good Morning--
About Barbara--- "COMFORTABLE" or "UNCOMFORTABLE" who to believe????
Feldman says: "And in fact, Barbara Easton starts talking to Danielle Van Dam, and Brenda Van Dam later tells police "that was making me very UNCOMFORTABLE. I don't want her talking to my daughter." This woman talking to my daughter? Huh-uh. SHE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HER."
Brenda STRONGLY objected to Barbara's attention toward Danielle. (The whole scene causes me to think that maybe Barbara was not just simply speaking verbally to Danielle, but maybe physically doing something to her.)
Dusek asks Brenda: Q:"....Is it the case that your relationship with her was such that you were uncomfortable when she was talking with your daughter, Danielle? A: It just struck me as odd because she didn't--she wasn't around my children that much. (so why be upset about her just talking?)
Later Dusek asks Brenda: Q: "Were you concerned about the safety of your daughter with Barbara being around her? A: No
Then Denise states that they left the house soooo early that Friday 8:30 and arrived at the bar soooo early that they still had family's there. (There were KIDS at tables near the bar) (--I think Brenda was very UPSET so she quickly ushered Barbara out of the house.)
Later,at the bar, when they were dancing and carousing occurs, Brenda gets real UNCOMFORTABLE with Barbara again. At 2:00AM in the Van Dam's Barbara gets real COMFORTABLE with Damon. This makes Brenda UNCOMFORTABLE again, she goes up and gets them, tells them their are rude.
According to Feldman: Barbara will testify that she had a long standing (COMFORTABLE)-relationship with both Damon and Brenda. Brenda stated that she first met Barbara, Aug. 2001 and that they caroused that night at Dad's as well.
659
posted on
07/15/2002 8:07:34 AM PDT
by
juzcuz
To: spectre
I have no doubts more stuff will leak about the parents and DW after the trial... whether or not they brought strangers into the house on the other hand is one of the questions we need answered to get the mystery overwith.
I've heard a few commontators make various comments about the parents lifestyle. ....I still maintain molestors don't care what the parents do...if they find a weakness, they will exploit it..whether the parents are gone all the time volunteering or bar hopping. If they think the child can be gotten, the child will be had.
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