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To: kcvl; All
Here is some data about this creep and his first attempt in Floriduh to bring this about.(Link to article on Creep!)

Here is the part of him being a minister:

Newdow says his pledge fight -- unlike AU's strategic battles -- is essentially personal. The act of 1954 infringes on his own religious freedom, he claims. He's a minister of atheism, ordained by the Universal Life Church, a controversial California entity that has ordained millions of ministers of all stripes and beliefs at the mere asking. Newdow says he'll be opening his church, the First Amendment Church of True Science (FACTS), soon, likely on the Internet. Atheists, he argues, shouldn't have to pledge to a God in whom they don't believe. He compares his refusal to that expected of Christians, who would surely refuse to pledge allegiance to "one nation under Allah." Atheists, he says, are among the last groups in the U.S. that are fair game for hatred and discrimination. (At least six states still have laws barring atheists -- who make up between 4 and 13 percent of the U.S. population -- from holding public office.)

44 posted on 07/12/2002 1:47:11 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
No doubt, Newdoubt is a doozie - but those Circuit 9 injustices are worse.....
48 posted on 07/12/2002 5:06:50 PM PDT by azhenfud
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To: Grampa Dave
Atheists, he argues, shouldn't have to pledge to a God in whom they don't believe.

True. And I, as a taxpayer, shouldn't have to be forced to pay for a procedure I don't believe in, i.e. other people's abortions, but I'm paying anyway, whether I like it or not.

Somebody tell this guy that in America, you have to know when to put up and when to shut up. And he can shut up. Is anyone forcing him to say the words "under God"?? No. He doesn't have to say it, even if it is part of the Pledge. However, he doesn't have the right to prevent me and my children from saying it if we so choose. And when all is said and done, and if the phrase "Under God" somehow gets omitted, people are going to say it anyway, and of their own free will. So this lawsuit will prove to be a complete and utter waste of time.

84 posted on 07/16/2002 6:28:23 PM PDT by pray4liberty
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