I get what you mean, really, but still you have to admit it's one thing to see someone smacked down in a debate for a moronic opinion and disregarded, but to have a (new)freepers opinion dismissed due to a sign up date does not exactly make someones arguement seem as strong. Yep, it's a right of passage, but if the FReeper doesn't seem like a disruptor, some of us like to welcome them the proper way. 