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To: socal_parrot
"After his hands were cuffed, Jackson was able to reach out and grab my client's testicles," he said. "And on that occasion the punch was seen in order to make that activity cease."

For the life of me, I can not figure out why this attorney would absolutely destroy his own credibility here. Anyone who has seen the tape knows this is a lie. Not to mention the fact that is someone does grab one's testicles, the natural reaction is to pull back away from the person, and use hands/arms to get them to release. Perhaps THEN I would smack someone, but only after a few seconds. Further, no other officers reacted.

12 posted on 07/11/2002 4:51:11 PM PDT by 1L
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To: 1L
Anyone who has seen the tape knows this is a lie.

You say it is a lie because the policeman didn't respond as you expected?

14 posted on 07/11/2002 4:54:08 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: 1L
I've seen the tape several times and see no reaction by the officer to indicate he just had his "bidness" grabbed. You're right, he doesn't move back, which is what I would believe would be the reflex.
16 posted on 07/11/2002 4:55:22 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: 1L
Athaletic hardcup.
46 posted on 07/11/2002 5:44:54 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: 1L
For the life of me, I can not figure out why this attorney would absolutely destroy his own credibility here. Anyone who has seen the tape knows this is a lie. Not to mention the fact that is someone does grab one's testicles, the natural reaction is to pull back away from the person, and use hands/arms to get them to release. Perhaps THEN I would smack someone, but only after a few seconds. Further, no other officers reacted.

To be honest with you, I can't tell from the tape if there was any grabbing of the "jewels" or not. And, I've seen it a couple of times myself.

I'm also not sure as to the natural reaction. The last time anybody made good contact, I was about 13 years old. My reaction then was to double over in pain. :^) By the time I reached my 20's, my reactions had turned more towards the offense.

I know that there had to be a couple of witnesses that had a different angle on the situation, but I'm not sure what they saw nor am I sure what they'll say they saw. Cops tend to testify in favor of other cops unless there's some real nasty stuff going on. Similarly, neighbors in some areas are very tight and will not testify against their own neighbors and aquaintances.

I agree with one thing; this doesn't look good for the cop. But he gets a trial (though without the camera, there might not be such a trial), hopefully a fair one just like the rest of us.

I did find it interesting that the "camera man" had some outstanding warrants. The plot thickens here.

69 posted on 07/11/2002 6:11:09 PM PDT by meyer
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To: 1L
What's natural, as in backing away, might not be all that easy, depending on the pressure and type of the hold. Perhaps that's why the officer punched the teen, to make him let go. Just a guess, though. Will have to see what all the police reports say.
141 posted on 07/11/2002 7:29:45 PM PDT by skr
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To: 1L
Amazing. You can actually presume to dictate with such authority what a person whom you don't know, in a situation you no doubt have never faced, would do in response to an unusual physical assault, in such fine detail, that when presented with an alternative response, you just know it is a lie!

You must be some kinda psychologist. Did they teach you all that in law school?
190 posted on 07/11/2002 9:41:22 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 1L
i felt a bit sorry for the defense
attorney myself, sometimes it is best
not to say anything. bruce lee might
have been able to grab something from
behing being handcuffed, but not this
dazed youngster. when will the film from the store be shown to the public?
that should help us figure out what
really happened.
261 posted on 07/12/2002 3:53:37 AM PDT by reform4me
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