[Dominic Harr]

But there is a big jump from affirming that the size of a bird's beak can vary to making the claim that the bird turned into a whole other animal.

In every other system, when you make a large number of small changes to an object you end up with an object that is radically different than the object you started with.

This is no "jump", any more than it is surmising that if I push a ball down stairs, the ball will bounce down to the bottom.

It's observable in almost every system.

[f.Christian]

uh...hmmm---you see the ball bouncing up the steps---evolution!

[f.Christian]

This is no "jump", any more than it is surmising that if I push a ball down stairs, the ball will bounce down to the bottom.

This is no "jump"...any more than it is surmising that if I push a ball up the stairs, the ball will bounce up to the top.

Evolution...the big jump--bounce---LEAP!