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To: Gumlegs; Right Wing Professor
"Consequently, theories of evolution which, in accordance with the philosophies inspiring them, consider the mind as emerging from the forces of living matter, or as a mere epiphenomenon of this matter, are incompatible with the truth about man. Nor are they able to ground the dignity of the person."... The 1996 Magisterium

Please read the sentence above carefully...

I did, Gumlegs, as is obvious from my post. Why would you think otherwise?

The "theories of evolution" to which the Pope objects are those and only those which "consider the mind as emerging from the forces of living matter or as a mere epiphenomenon of this matter."

Well, Yes, that's how the Magisterium reads. No news here. It is also true, however, that the Evols who post here are uniformly and unanimously in the Materialist Atheist camp, and the Pope's message is therefore addressed directly at them.

His objection is that... I suspect...

Your interpretation is completely unnecessary. The Magisterium is intended to, and does, speak for itself more than adequately. It's laughable that you would presume to "explain" things to me but I do believe in free speech, however inane.

Right Wing Professor intended to allow the impression that the Pope and the Catholic Church were in accord with the "theory" of Evolution (see his post), as have other Evol posters in recent months. The Church is not and it is thus a lie, Gumlegs, pure and simple.

855 posted on 07/16/2002 9:04:46 AM PDT by Phaedrus
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To: Phaedrus
Question: How can the person who posted this:

the Evols who post here are uniformly and unanimously in the Materialist Atheist camp,

possibly add:

Your interpretation is completely unnecessary. The Magisterium is intended to, and does, speak for itself more than adequately. It's laughable that you would presume to "explain" things to me but I do believe in free speech, however inane.

Not all evols (or in f.Christian's delightful coinage, fossil thumpers), are in the "Materialist Atheist" camp. Ditto the evols who post here. It's ridiculous to assert otherwise, but you appear to do so. Why?

Right Wing Professor intended to allow the impression that the Pope and the Catholic Church were in accord with the "theory" of Evolution (see his post), as have other Evol posters in recent months. The Church is not and it is thus a lie, Gumlegs, pure and simple.

You appear to intend to allow the impression that the Pope rejects all theories of evolution no matter how formulated. That's simply false. The Church does accept the theory of evolution, just not certain versions of it. It also rejects any interpretation that would be used to ... but you say you don't need my help on the issue, so I'll drop it with the note that the theory of evolution is taught as a valid scientific theory in Catholic schools up to and including the University level.

Be careful about the casual use of the term, "lie." You wouldn't want to appear to be gorey.

858 posted on 07/16/2002 9:29:08 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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