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Posted on 07/11/2002 9:44:50 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: Right Wing Professor
You are indeed fortunate to be able to be so much more expert than the Doctors of the Church, with apparently so much less education. Given your expertness, I confess myself totally unqualified to debate you. God designed Christianity to be available to the humblest of persons. When Jesus walked around asking people "Who do YOU say that I am?" He did not first determine their university credentials.
I am deeply sorry that you have bought into the academic caste system of valuating people by their university pedigrees. No wonder you were so easily brainwashed by the lies of evolution. You can't even grasp your own thougts well enough to stand on your own feet like a man and simply SAY WHAT YOU BELIEVE.
Sad.
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posted on
07/11/2002 2:43:54 PM PDT
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berned
To: berned
God designed Christianity to be available to the humblest of persons. And how about God's design of Judaism? Who is that available to? Mormonism? Hinduism?
To: Dominic Harr
It's called denial.
Main Entry: de·ni·al
Pronunciation: di-'nI(-&)l, dE-
Function: noun
Date: 1528
1 : refusal to satisfy a request or desire
2 a (1) : refusal to admit the truth or reality (as of a statement or charge) (2) : assertion that an allegation is false b : refusal to acknowledge a person or a thing : DISAVOWAL
3 : the opposing by the defendant of an allegation of the opposite party in a lawsuit
4 : SELF-DENIAL
5 : negation in logic
6 : a psychological defense mechanism in which confrontation with a personal problem or with reality is avoided by denying the existence of the problem or reality
I think that pretty much summs it up
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posted on
07/11/2002 2:48:42 PM PDT
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EBUCK
To: EBUCK
Sorry, I only use TalkOrigins webpages for toilet paper. If you have some legitimate scientific references with supporting sources, peer reviewed, pass them along.
To: JediGirl
Momrmonism and Hinduism are "whats" not "whos". I don't understand your question as you stated it. Are you asking if Judaism is available for Mormons and Hindus to understand if they want to?
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07/11/2002 2:49:44 PM PDT
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berned
To: JediGirl
All those people are doomed to burn in hell because they have neglected to convert to the Kings religion. And AFAIK, ignorance is no excuse either.
EBUCK
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posted on
07/11/2002 2:50:09 PM PDT
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EBUCK
To: JediGirl
Read what I posted. Creationism doesn't hold "us" back. You are free to move forward. That someone else wants to be a Creationist shouldn't bother you. There isn't some collective net that's effecting you because some other person doesn't agree with you.
To: PatrickHenry
Interesting. So we can actually observe primative forms breeding, mutating and being selected for by a natural process? Wow!
To: Dominic Harr
The first thing you're missing is equating Creationists and ID Theorists.
To: berned
If Christianity is available only to the humblest of people, to what kind of people is Judaism, Mormanism, and Hinduism available?
To: That Subliminal Kid
Are you denying that they used the scientific method in those pages? You did in fact ask for an example of the scientific method being applied to the ToE which I provided. Since you don't like TO you can use this
Link. I don't think you are going to find the two in much conflict. As a matter of fact, in order for you to be satisfied it seems that you would need to throw out all scientific data and cut your reading down to just one book.
EBUCK
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07/11/2002 2:54:40 PM PDT
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EBUCK
To: That Subliminal Kid
That someone else wants to be a Creationist shouldn't bother you. It doesn't. That someone wants it in the classroom is what bothers me.
To: Right Wing Professor
Evolution is a brain disease of the psuedo-intellectual...
simple/honest people aren't fooled--persuaded by nonsense!
Intelligence is a total LIABILITY when it comes to TRUTH--WISDOM--KNOWLEDGE/SCIENCE---Creation/God!
To: Dimensio
No, no, no.. I want to see the tests that show this process from simple single to multicellular organisms to the vast array of organisms we see today. I want to see the tests which demonstrate that this process is natural, and I want to see the tests that demonstrate that genetic variation and natural selection alone are capable of generating new information. Not a prediction that concludes what was assumed.
To: EBUCK
It's called denial. Oh, absolutely.
But I'm fascinated at the structure of this debate.
These folks paint themselves into a corner by stating that they do *not* believe in evolution, and then spend a lot of time arguing against evolution.
All the while, they do agree with evolution, and only disagree about the age of the universe.
They're arguing about the wrong thing, and it's easy to prove it to them. Just ask them if they believe that species evolve to adapt to their envrionment. You know when you've gotten too close to the truth when they refuse to talk to you!
Fascinating.
To: JediGirl
I don't know of anyone who does.
To: That Subliminal Kid
The first thing you're missing is equating Creationists and ID Theorists. I don't think so, but possibly.
May I ask you -- do you believe that species evolve to adapt to their changing environments?
To: That Subliminal Kid
The moment that Creationism is taught in public schools (which seems to be the overarching Creationist goal here) we will in fact be held back by creationism. A new dark ages indeed.
EBUCK
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posted on
07/11/2002 2:57:43 PM PDT
by
EBUCK
To: berned
God designed Christianity to be available to the humblest of persons. No doubt. However, there's a difference between being able to plug in a toaster, and being able to intelligently design a nuclear power plant.
It's not a question of an academic caste system. It's a religious difference. That every person should be able to determine the Creators' will, on his own, from a rather political 17th century translation of a translation of a translation of a compilation of a set of Divinely-inspired works is a very protestant idea.
To: EBUCK
All those people are doomed to burn in hell because they have neglected to convert to the Kings religion. And AFAIK, ignorance is no excuse either. What?? I thought Mormomism was the correct religion - or was that just in South Park?
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