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To: truth_seeker
I believe in a fairly high probability that DAW had an alcohol problem, and commited it in a full blackout.

T.S. How did a DRUNK to the point of BLACKOUT man get into the VD home, kidnap/kill the girl, and get her out without anyone, the dog, Damon, the boys, noticing, and while NOT LEAVING ONE SCRAP of TRACE EVIDENCE.

I mean, otherwise, I would be with you. I could see due to the motions and such, but how can you explain away what I asked?

571 posted on 07/11/2002 4:08:11 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2; Jaded
T.S. How did a DRUNK to the point of BLACKOUT man get into the VD home, kidnap/kill the girl, and get her out without anyone, the dog, Damon, the boys, noticing, and while NOT LEAVING ONE SCRAP of TRACE EVIDENCE.

Stealth Ninja Dave

574 posted on 07/11/2002 4:10:00 PM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: UCANSEE2

SING VAN DAMMIT!!!

Swingers, sluts and creeps....

Absolute White Trash.

Looking for trouble...

Swingers, sluts and creeps....

Their lack of morals....

Eliminated one child...

They no longer have three....


589 posted on 07/11/2002 4:22:49 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: UCANSEE2
T.S. How did a DRUNK to the point of BLACKOUT man get into the VD home, kidnap/kill the girl, and get her out without anyone, the dog, Damon, the boys, noticing, and while NOT LEAVING ONE SCRAP of TRACE EVIDENCE.

I don't know. But I have heard strange tales about what people can and have done during blackouts. I am not claiming he stayed in a blackout for hours and hours, but just long enough to get her away and confine her, maybe kill her.

Don't just dismiss it. The blackout idea is much more plausible than about 90 percent of the rumor and noise on this thread. Of course it presumes he's the perp, an idea obviously not popular on this, the "FR Van Damnation" thread.

687 posted on 07/11/2002 5:17:39 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: UCANSEE2
T.S. How did a DRUNK to the point of BLACKOUT man get into the VD home, kidnap/kill the girl, and get her out without anyone, the dog, Damon, the boys, noticing, and while NOT LEAVING ONE SCRAP of TRACE EVIDENCE.

There is a lot of reading, on the subject easily found by searching that term "alcoholic blackout" on Yahoo.com. My html skill is limited to citing:

http://google.yahoo.com/bin/query?p=%22alcoholic+blackout%22&hc=0&hs=0

Yielding 211 hits, including criminal cases.

1,095 posted on 07/11/2002 10:49:07 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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