Expert: Body dumped after defendant fell under suspicion (SO WHO DUMPED DANIELLE VAN DAM'S BODY??)

Union Trib ^ | July 11, 2002 | Steve Perez/Greg Magnus

[John Jamieson]

You probably have to have pretty good equipment to determine the exact melting point.

[Greg Weston]

It's never too late for some badly needed common sense!

[Illbay]

Don't think that is it was well hidden from them. (How could it be)?

No, it couldn't be, you're absolutely right (btw, I haven't been paying attention. Is it absolutely certain that all this stuff was going on? Is this a matter of public record in open court? I'm simply curious because I haven't seen anything other than discussions about it in here. The press certainly hasn't talked much about it).

I remember reading somewhere, an article about a "swinging" couple that had some kids, at least one of 'em around 12 years old. These people didn't try to conceal anything but they made sure the kids were somewhere else when they had one of their "weekends."

Anyway, after one such, their twelve-year-old asked them "You were all having sex while I was at Jimmy's, weren't you?" They said, "Uh, well, yes, why do you ask?" "Because it always smells kinda funny around after you've been doing it. Kind of like stale bread."

So it goes.

[John Jamieson]

I must be perverted because of my technical background. Makes people lose their common sense and substitute logic.

[Illbay]

Okay, so you're one who believes in Westerfield's guilt. Can YOU tell me why this is such a hot topic? I'm more fascinated by the "thread-bound" folks who inhabit threads like this than by the fact of Westerfield's guilt or innocence, to tell you the truth.

[Greg Weston]

Sometimes that logic can be tricky. Some of these "expert" witne$$e$ use alot of "logic"

Give me good old fashioned common sense any time.

[John Jamieson]

My wife killed a deer with an Oldsmoble last night. I was going to do a Faulkner experiment but the guys at the fire station said that they didn't think the deer would be there this morning.

[longjack]

The motion deals with the defense's tactic of the intoxication alibi and 3rd party culpability.

So Dusek, who wrote the motion, knew what the defense (Feldman) wanted to do. That's what I meant about Dusek knows where Feldman is going.

My thought is that if DAW admits he was drunk in the motion, and Dusek can get Susan to say she feared for her or other's safety when DAW was drunk, the prosecution scores points now, and can pave a path to use Susan as a witness if an appeal happens.

'Forceful' doesn't have the same impact as 'fear for your safety', in my opinion. It seems logical, also, that a question after 'was he forceful?' would be, 'Did you fear for your safety?'. It seems that any defense objection would be overruled since intoxication was admitted to and DAW's behavior while intoxicated would be pertinent.

longjack

[Greg Weston]

>>Can YOU tell me why this is such a hot topic?<<

Like the guy who went over the cliff in "Rebel Without A Cause" said..."You got to do something....". I think maybe the totally obsesesed "Fresno Da" would be the one to ask about this strange phenomenon.

[Illbay]

Do you not think it's possibly because they're so outraged by the alleged lifestyle of the Van Dams?

[John Jamieson]

Dusek might have misrepresented what Feldman said. Remember the search warrant misrepresentations? How about the 30 or 40 people called by the prosecution that said the cops misrepresented their statements?

[angelgirl]

I have 2 questions, sorry if they have already been asked and I missed them. First why hasn't Barbara been called to testify yet - what is the deal? Second, was Damon home alone when Brenda & girls were at Dad's? And did Brenda or friends see Danielle upon returning from Dad's? Were the boys in bed before Danielle - have they testified to events of that night? Thanks in advance. Praying the truth will eventually come out....keep the faith.

[John Jamieson]

"because they're so outraged by the alleged lifestyle of the Van Dams"

That bothered me at first, but now I'm pretty sure that the van Dam's killed Danielle. That outrages me!

[fnord]

excellent point. I think Feldman was tracking on this when he asked them if they had told DW they weren't going this year. They said no. Another piece fits now.

[John Jamieson]

Barbara may be called as the star defense witness, but I think she may not be because she makes such a good alternate perp for the jury to think about.

Nobody has said they saw any of the children between 10:30 and when every got up in the morning.

Who knows if Damon was alone that night. There's a rumor that he visited a neighborhood lady.

[hoosiermama]

Good morning...Had a thouht right before I fell asleep. The speculation about use of the "X" drug. It would explain why Brenda acted "frisky" and didn't remember it...lied about it. Maybe DW & Danielle weren't only ones slipped something? (Note for Novel)

[Greg Weston]

No. Well it's not the main thing at least. The important thing is the wild voyeuristic "swinging" party here.

[John Jamieson]

It's very likely that much more powerful drugs were in use besides pot.

[hoosiermama]

Agreed

[Greg Weston]

>>but now I'm pretty sure that the van Dam's killed Danielle.<<

Logically doesn't fit. Not a single solitary shred of real evidence points this way.