A Bush Hater's Poll

Jim Robinson

[Cultural Jihad]

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Who is conned by that lard-ass contrivance anymore? "I'm a slug, I don't support anything, I'll set my standards so high that no party is worthy of my support and I can justify my lard-ass inaction as principle. Woo Hoo!

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Most worthy of a repeat, Arne. Anyone who thinks the political process is no longer a valid avenue of change really has no business coming around to FR to whine and moan their despair.

[B. A. Conservative]

"Give the Republicans a mandate to dismantle the federal bureaucracy."

We did and they squandered it.

After their embarrassing failures, they are courting Democrats because they know some conservatives will seek retribution and the rest have no where else to go. They think they have a free shot of chasing the left or the middle with little or nothing to lose from the Conservative base. And if everybody listens to what you are saying, the Republicans will be right. And perhaps the larger tragedy, is regardless of whether the Republicans win or lose this November won't matter to the conservative agenda. Since Republicans are running on a socialist's platform, we will be the losers regardless of who is in office.

[loveliberty]

Not conservative enough

Never mind the terms "conservative" and "liberal." Bush seems to understand America's founding ideas. He is, however, President at a time when most American adults have never studied those ideas. If he can use his plain-spoken manner to convey and reconfirm
1)that our lives, our inalienable rights, and our liberty come from a Creator;
2) that there is, in fact, a "Supreme Judge";
3) that ideas have consequences; and
4) that September 11 proved that there are two equally powerful forces at work in the world--good and evil--one of which produces liberty and life, and the other which results in tyranny and death--if he can reconfirm these ideas for the current generations, then he will have earned my vote.

Not pro-life Not proven.

Is a gun-grabber

Not yet determined.

Is a federal power-grabber Desperate times demand desperate measures, and although it's troublesome, others have brought us to this point.

Will appoint liberal judgesWon't believe until I see.

Is a globalistPerhaps, but he follows a long line.

Is in it just for oil No.

Is too soft on immigration Yet to be seen.

Is too soft (or too hard) on Israel What would you do?

Is a crook Not so

! All of the above

None of the above
Other (you name it) Follows the most corrupt man who ever held the office and one who almost singlehandedly disarmed America, both militarily and morally. George Bush, next to him, is a throwback to the founding period.

Unless Washington, Madison, or Jefferson are resurrected and run in the 2004 election, Bush has my vote!

[ArneFufkin]

Jesse, the night of Bush's embryonic stem cell research speech to the nation you came on and made a comment that could have been copied from Bartcop.com. You ridiculed President Bush's verbal acuity and native intelligence if I recall. I proposed that George W. Bush was significantly smarter than you - hey, I'm still solidly behind that proposal. The dumb fratboy lie. Low class slumming.

[Linda Liberty]

I know this is a huge thread, but I really would be interested
in your reply to my question at the bottom of 552.
Do you think Bush has handled fiscal policy or homeland security competently?

[B. A. Conservative]

"But you and everyone else keep telling me if I cut off their candy (my votes) I will end up with Hilary as King and Ted Kennedy and Jesse Jackson as co- Popes. It is truly hard to know what is the moral thing to do. I get hives worrying about it when I go to vote. "

Have you considered this?

[Amelia]

Never mind the terms "conservative" and "liberal." Bush seems to understand America's founding ideas. He is, however, President at a time when most American adults have never studied those ideas. If he can use his plain-spoken manner to convey and reconfirm
1)that our lives, our inalienable rights, and our liberty come from a Creator;
2) that there is, in fact, a "Supreme Judge";
3) that ideas have consequences; and
4) that September 11 proved that there are two equally powerful forces at work in the world--good and evil--one of which produces liberty and life, and the other which results in tyranny and death--if he can reconfirm these ideas for the current generations, then he will have earned my vote.

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I like that.

[B. A. Conservative]

Beautiful!

[ArneFufkin]

CJ: A politically engaged American citizen becomes disenchanted and gives up on party politics? That's life. American citizens with no clue? That's our history! Tired, busy, angry, betrayed and exhausted ... get some distance! Sit one election out. But ... let's not b.s. each other either: Ignorance, abandonment, surrender and lethargy are not vituous traits. Don't sell sloth and irresponsibility as principle. Hey, if you're bugging out ... bug out! Get a program to assuage your tears. Quit bitching! That's beyond tiresome here. Regards friend!

[B. A. Conservative]

How much of it could be used to run nuclear power plants rather than buring it for ten thousand years and wasting like most other PC liberal/socialists programs. Are there really two arguments here? Yes the US needs a burial site. But is it not true that by giving into the environmental radicals we are burying usuable nuclear fuel that could power electric generating plants for years. First the loonies block the most one of the sensible and safe forms of producing nuclear energy, then they cry global warming when we bow to their wishes and use other forms of power.

We need a President and a political party willing to take a stand and block the lunatics on the left. The Republicans are not even taking a stand. Does the "R" stand for "R"etreat?

[B. A. Conservative]

People should be patient.

Seventy years is enough patience. When should we expect progress?

[ArneFufkin]

OK, I'll play. The Amnesty is GOOD IDEA. Let's get everybody here who is illegal counted, identified and sanctioned. Sooner the bettrer.

I don't care if they snuck across the border or not. I want to know who is here, where they are and what they are doing. I'll swallow my indignation for the bigger win.

I propose lawsuits galore over providing county entitlements and local school access to non citizens. I propose a local, county and state grass roots movement to remove those who would take our money to provide benefits to those who do not reside in our county. We need to sting the ID syndicates HARD!!! We need to throw State Civil Servants into prison if they traffick illegal IDs.

Within 12 months, 2/3 of illegals will be back in Mexico or Somalia. No welfare, no work skills ... no America for the unskilled or weak. No parasites. Immigrants who break their backs and honorably make a days wage so their children might have an education and prosperous life here - that makes me tingly! That's America Goddamit! Stay out of the way of that Tooth. It's bigger than you or me.

[B. A. Conservative]

A genuine conservative would know that having a degree from Harvard or Yale is more likely an indicator of someone groomed to be a socialist rather than being indicative of someone with credentials that imply ability or intelligence.

[Black Agnes]

I'll swallow my indignation for the bigger win.

Sadly they never vote pubbie (at least first generation), too used to the government dole. It won't be pubbies that will be 'winning'.

[Issaquahking]

Jim,

I would vote for "W" again in 2004. In 2000 he was the only choice on the ballot....So far he has done a good job - not neccisarily excellent, but better than I thought he could do.

1.Is a socially and fiscally republican and stays true to basic party line.

2. First time I've heard this logic.

3.Gee, I understood that when he went and trained with the F.B.I./C.I.A. recently in shooting and driving skills that perhaps it was a hint to all to be better shots and sharpen up on that driving!

4.Power-grabbing....or is it pulling the stops out only to stop terrorism? Klintoon refused to accept responsibility when U.B.L.'s head was offered to him...."W" said "dead or alive", I like that.

5.After the comments on the judges after the "Pledge Attack" by the idiot from the 9th district, I can't imagine anyone believing his judges would be anything but serious conservatives.

6.Globalist?....Ya, ask Coffi tincan and the U.N. boys if they think "W" is going to cave in to that stupid I.C.C. noise? Don't think so.

7. "W" is the only president ever to work in the great state of Alaska....Therefore has real world view of developing A.N.W.R.

8. This maybe true.

9. Could give Israel a break.

10. Not true.

Would vote for him again. He won't make it if the goofs who are third party hard-liners go it alone, thus giving it the liberals. Needs to get all the republican and"floater" votes to beat all the dimorats in 2004.

[ArneFufkin]

You just can't get the picture, can you?

[AlGone2001]

My choice is #12, and I'll gladly vote for this good man in 2004.

[ArneFufkin]

No Welfare ... No illegal problem. No welfare ... No illegal problem.

It's entitlements amd welfare.

Oh, and lastly ... it's welfare and entitlements.

Commence besieged bitching!

[Black Agnes]

What picture would that be? I live in a predominantly hispanic neighborhood. In prior years it was a very Cuban neighborhood. Cubans tend to be both culturally and economically conservative and vote more pubbie than any other 'hispanic' group. In recent years however, it has become more Mexican (read, illegal). Now we have gangs and old people are afraid to go out at night. The voting has changed from about 60% pubbie to 78% Gore in last election. Is this the picture you want?

[Jim Scott]

A little late in the game but let me take a whack at this.

1. Not conservative enough

As conservative as he can be and still be elected and maintain support from the apathetic public.

2. Not pro-life

Nonsense. I don't agree with his exceptions for rape and incest as reasons for abortion, but Bush is pro-life.

3. Is a gun-grabber

More nonsense.

4. Is a federal power-grabber

To a certain degree born of necessity but since 9/11 changed everything we'll never know the true answer to that question.

5. Will appoint liberal judges

If anyone believes this they are deluded, big-time.

6. Is a globalist

To a degree but he's not giving up U.S. sovereignty. The term 'globalist' has different meanings for different people.

7. Is in it just for oil

Nonsense on stilts.

8. Is too soft on immigration

Yes, he is. This must change and I hope it doesn't take another terrorist attack to do it but I fear that it will.

9. Is too soft (or too hard) on Israel

Bush is just right on Israel. His speech last month that called for new Palestinian leadership and held out the carrot of U.S. help if that (ever) happens was a masterstroke.

10. Is a crook

Insulting, slanderous nonsense, totally false and without a shred of evidence to back up such a foolish ststement.

11. All of the above

Only if you're a liberal posing as a conservative, a Libertarian or one of those perpetually angry and negative types that populate some corners of Free Republic.

12. None of the above

#8 is the only real exception.

13. Other (you name it)

George W. Bush foiled the Democrat attempt to steal an election from him, performed as a leader should on and after 9/11 and has generally been an excellent President with sharp political instincts.

That he gives some quarter to the Congressional Democrats may be frustrating but it's also inevitible and reasonable. Bush isn't the president of Christian conservatives only. While I would like him to do more 'conservative' things, such as tightening immigration, I realize that he's doing a lot under the constant pressure of the Democrats to demonize him and thwart his agenda and the liberal media's endless attempts to defame and minimize him at every opportunity.

It's not easy being even a mildly conservative president in this environment but Bush is performing well. He's never going to be (nor does he want to be) Harry Browne or Pat Buchanan or some other hard-core fantasy President but then, George W. Bush actually gets elected and does effect some changes while the perpetually sour piss and moan 24/7 while offering nothing but 'coulda wudda shoulda' to the man actually in Teddy Roosevelt's political arena, getting bloody and dirty and fighting the good fight.

I was for George W. Bush two years ago and I'm for him now.

Heaven will be perfect and I anticipate being there someday but this is earth. America in 2002 and we're talking politics, not theology. No politician is 'perfect' in any way. Never was. I'm certain that had FR existed in 1782, George Washington would be critized as too soft on something or other. That's politics.

President Bush is a good man doing a good job in trying times. He has my support and my vote in 2004 and I believe that all the anti-Bush 'conservatives' that endlessly catalog his perceived faults and shortcomings here every day and constantly proclaim that they'll vote Third-Party or refuse to vote at all in November and especailly in 2004 will be rather embarrassed when Bush wins by a landslide - without them and their endless criticisms of a good President and a good man.