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To: UCANSEE2
Possibly really stupid question. Please be gentle if it is. I haven't seen any reference to DW DNA etc on body or in Van Dams home, only thing really bringing stuff together is her blood, fingerprints, hair, etc in motor home, and some evidence of motor home furnishings on her. Assuming she was assaulted in motor home, would that put Westerfield definitely there doing it? Any reason she couldn't have been in the motor home with one of the VD party guests?

It would seem to me that someone wanting to molest her would want to take her to a place where they would be less likely to be interrupted. If the motor home was unlocked, etc, it would be the perfect place to carry out the act. This brings up questions as to guests comings and goings during the night. Anybody there that evening that wasn't there in the morning?

Other questions as to body placement, seems to me, most likely she was kept alive until later, killed and disposed of. I've been around dead bodies in various stages of decay, and after a few days they really start to stink. Freezers, etc, should leave some signs on the body, as the freezing of water in the cells should make cell walls burst, at least on living people. Don't know enough about forensics to be sure what effect on dead would be. Plastic bag would not stop decay, dittos for paper bags. It doesn't make any sense to me that someone would dump her in a bag, then come back later and remove bag.

I'm not saying it's impossible that various things were done to hide decay and she was dumped later, but it just seems more likely that someone would have kept her locked up (this also makes sense in that it would allow continued abuse or making of movies) and then killed her when they were done with her and dumped her. Since several of the people at the VD's were known to have pretty unusual sexual lifestyles, the possibility of her being kidnapped for use in child porn doesn't seem too far out of bounds to me.

I haven't gotten to watch too much of the trial, and I was hoping they had caught the right person, but what I've seen doesn't really indicate to me a case that I would have taken to a jury.

555 posted on 07/10/2002 9:20:46 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: Richard Kimball
Bug-man testified that body had not been moved. Think he also testified not been frozen--no crytalization.
I had also wonder if someone else hadn't taken her into the MH or if she had hidden in there. ie DvD had mistreated dog. She takes dog and runs away and hide in MH. All speculative, but lots of possibilities....Sure wipes out Beyond a Shadow of doubt.
Too many unidentified fingerprints all over the place for me. Let's get some of them IDed.
559 posted on 07/10/2002 9:28:52 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Richard Kimball
The RV wasn't parked at DW's home that night. It was being stored elsewhere.
561 posted on 07/10/2002 9:31:24 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: Richard Kimball
Any reason she couldn't have been in the motor home with one of the VD party guests?

The motor home was not stored there it was elsewhere

564 posted on 07/10/2002 9:34:03 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Richard Kimball
I don't think that decay was at issue for the Med. Exam. If I remember correctly he said her state of decay was consistant with a body that had been out there for 2-3 weeks.

I'm thinking that the importance of plastic has to do with the "Bug Guy" who suggested that there should have been more generations of bugs there. Because there were not more bugs, it suggests that the body was wrapped in something that prevented bugs from getting to her earlier.
576 posted on 07/10/2002 9:51:09 PM PDT by juzcuz
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To: Richard Kimball
In this trial, No questions are stupid, as we all seem to have MANY MORE QUESTIONS than we have answers, or that the police have provided answers to.

All your questions are relevant and have actually been discussed. The problem is, those kind of leads (evidence of pizza gang in the MH, etc) were not pursued by police. They had hairs,prints, etc they found, but since they weren't DW's the police made no further attempts to link them to anyone else.

You can get verification of this by going back through the threads on the DW trial.

The regular posters on here (RHEO,FRESNODA,JOHN JAMIESON) are a wonderful source of LINKS to tons of information on the case. JUSt ask any one of us for specifics and we will do our best to point you to that information.

721 posted on 07/11/2002 6:28:27 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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