Posted on 07/10/2002 3:17:09 PM PDT by FresnoDA
Us courteous posters have to stick together. If you don't toe the "Van Damnation party line" on this thread, you're in for heavy ridicule.
Just today, "Ilbay" and "cyncooper" are getting smacked around. Many who think DAW MAY be guilty have given up and left the thread; not needing the abusive treatment.
It is truly fascinating to observe how RUMORS become virtually FACT-like. How 1 3/16th inches of blood morphs into 3/16th inch, with the quick omission, of one digit, for example.
At a time when many people lease vehicles, a Toyota van gets replaced by a BMW. Do I KNOW the van was leased? No, I don't. But the regulars don't know one way, or the other, either.
I DO KNOW leases expire, even on Toyotas. Yet based on the smallest "clue" they conjur another chapter in some sinister story.
What to make of the regulars' reaction to the BMW? Does it just reinforce the "party line" agenda, that all things VD are by definition evil? Envy (subconscious)?
The blue van is not useful, for finding Danielle's hair, DNA, fibers and (small traces of) blood in it would be expected, just as paint from it under her nails could be expected, yet the speculation persists.
The regulars on this thread are not at all representative of a jury. The regulars are a "self selected" group of folks. Their predominent characteristic is NOT objectivity.
Possibilities include:
1. DAW killed her, or
2. Someone from VD family & friends killed her, or
3. Some other person killed her, or
4. Danielle wandered around for 14 days, eventually collapsing and dying along Dehusa Rd. (giving bug man credit, for TOD)
The largest amount of evidence points to DAW. Three more days of testimony will be in the minds of the jury, before they deliberate.
I don't like the idea of an innocent man getting convicted, but my intuition is that at least one juror will hold out for conviction = Hung Jury. I do not expect a conviction for murder. Would they retry DAW? Most likely yes.
In spite of the regulars, based on just what is known today (not what is speculated or hoped for) it is highly improbable the VDs or friends will be implicated. If further investigation takes place, who knows what facts will be uncovered?
I don't believe there is a statute of limitations for murder (they eventually convicted Skakel). Will one of the regulars write a book about the "Sabre Springs Mystery?" Complete with REAL proof about the "real killer?" Takers?
I'll probably get smacked around (again) for just what little this note reflects.
After all, I once not only drove a BMW, but I owned it outright, after five years of payments. At the time I bought it, I did drink alcohol, did not use drugs, did read Playboy, did not swing, had been on vacations and business trips overseas, owned two houses, danced in nightclubs, lived in California, seldom went to church, and was a diehard Reagan Republican.
That made me guilty of something, for just about everybody posting on this thread, so I quit drinking and dancing in nightclubs, and sold a house (which also generates a Trust Deed transaction, along with many other normal things, like trusts) and leased a different vehicle. I've almost covered my tracks.
If I was on the jury, I would wait until all of the evidence was presented, before deciding. Not being on the jury, I'll nevertheless wait. I will evaluate and weigh the items of evidence, individually and in overall combination.
And Lawson claimed that all the child porn came from someone using a hotmail account? Point this out for me. I don't think you can.
Westerfield is scum for not only doing what he did to Danielle but for dragging his son into this as well. What a piece of human waste.
Answer yes to these? Give me your address then.
True. And I know that it bugs "David is innocent..." weirdos that their is not one single solitary shred of evidence that this happened in this case. It doesn't stop some scumbags from pushing that "Danielle was sold into porno by parents" and other such disgusting crap. Do you denounce this sort of thing MizSterious??
Too bad none of their DNA matches up like Westerfields does.
Maybe they will in this case. The forensic use of bugs has to be VERY imprecise. Flies don’t just lay eggs on day one which hatch on day two, etc. etc. Other flies also lay eggs on day two, day three, day four … they are probably still laying eggs on day twenty-one, when the flies from the first eggs are matured. By day 25, the first generation flies are laying their own eggs.
Pick a maggot off the dead body … you can say when the egg was laid. You cannot say it was among the first eggs laid on the body after death.
Yeah just like Henry Lee was used by the prosecution hundreds of times. Then came OJ! Then Lee got "used" ha!
Much ado about nothing
The DNA fits...Westerfield fries.
No, it was Mit DNA from Danielle's Mother that matches, which meant it could have been Danielle's or her Mothers...or brothers. Not Westerfield's DNA (put on broken record here).
Too bad the LE didn't find any prints or evidence of DW in Danielle's room or home..then I would have been positive he did it.
Dave Westerfield must have been so drunk and sweaty that his hands just glided over everything he touched..no prints explanation, LOL!
And it's really too bad that Damon pulled a Mr. Clean and vacuumed his home prior to calling the LE. He must have also made sure that Danielle's room was clean too...Isn't it just a bit ODD that none of HER prints were in there either? Her OWN room? Can you just imagine the frantic "wiping down of that room" prior to calling 911 that morning. No wonder Brenda was out of breath!
Doesn't matter, they WILL convict him...Greg.
But I'll make a prediction. Because of the many people involved that evening, and because Damon can't control himself, we WILL know the truth about that night. No TWO people can keep a secret.
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Yeah sure.
The two remaining Van Dam sons are the real losers here. Not only do they have to deal with the loss of their only sister, but now, it looks like Mom and Dad are separating. Those two little boys really need some stability in their lives, and unfortunately, their parents are selfish and only thinking of themselves..
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Guess Feldman doesn't know about the "mit" thing. Maybe you can contact him before it's too late.
Tell us, Greg..what is so WEIRD about DW?
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I'll wait for the "big finish" when Dusek's explains to us, (as promised) just how Westerfield was able to pull this crime off and how he actually accomplished the "almost perfect crime"...NOT!
So again, what's WEIRD about Westerfield?
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And apparently don't think much of it at all. Call Feldman up and tell him to get on the ball or something.
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