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Defense could pin hopes on insect life..Westerfield Trial Breaking News: BUG EVIDENCE QUESTIONS!!
Union Tribune ^ | July 10, 2002 | Kristen Green

Posted on 07/10/2002 3:17:09 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: Greg Weston
Well he said that some of the porn could not be surely determined to have been downloaded by the son. Still, he did make an expert's case that much of the porn was indeed downloaded by son, by comparing times of downloads with activities that the son would have been the one doing.
701 posted on 07/11/2002 5:18:42 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
I installed the new 'ignore fools' option on my end ... works like a charm.
702 posted on 07/11/2002 5:30:48 AM PDT by fnord
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To: VideoDoctor
"It's apparent the prosecution is trying, to prove their case, as opposed to having a case."

There! You found the words I was looking for! Very well said, and exactly so.

703 posted on 07/11/2002 5:41:23 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: Greg Weston
Bleaching, Laundrymat trips.
You call it what you you want. I call it a cleaning spree. That's the evidence. You trying to deny it makes you a liar.

I have bleach in the house and I am planning to do laundry today..do you want my address to report me to the cops?

704 posted on 07/11/2002 5:44:48 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: John Jamieson
When this first came up I speculated that it is a good business if one wants to produce porn..especially Kiddie porn..

Where is Barbara??

705 posted on 07/11/2002 5:46:01 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Rheo
There was also an empty bleach container in the trash in the garage.

AND he planned on replacing it..yep definately GUILTY

706 posted on 07/11/2002 5:49:25 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: bvw
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I vote we give up. This is useless.
707 posted on 07/11/2002 5:49:36 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: Rheo
I still don't understand why DVD did not ask DW anything on that morning.....he was loading up that MH on the Broadleaf side for the hose??

Good question! We don't know anything about what happened in the VD home that morning, do we? Damon got up at sometime (when?) fixed a little something for one or both of the boys (who walked past her open bedroom door?). Brenda got up (when?) did what? made coffee? read the paper? did some laundry? tripped over the dog bed? asked Damon what happened to it? asked why? recapped the previous evening?

We know nothing about any of this, not even their carefully constructed lied. Maybe Feldman will recall them and work backwards from the 911 call with the barking dog and screaming alarm recorded.

708 posted on 07/11/2002 5:55:26 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Rheo; Greg Weston
Unless he was bleeding or spitting on things how is he going to leave DNA there?

Sweating, hair, prints....there were no carpet fibers from his house found in hers..no evidence of him at all.

How did he get in, when, how did he get her out without running into DVD and the peeing dog?

How did he get her to his house?

Where was she when he came back to the neighborhood on 2/2

When did he supposedly dump her at Deshesa?..the list goes on.

You forgot to add while he was toasted..a drunk man is not a cautious man..nor does a large drunk man have good balance..he would have touched a wall or a bannister for balance..

709 posted on 07/11/2002 5:55:38 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: FresnoDA; Jaded; bvw
A little morning ditty for a Day Out of Court:

Hello, Libby
(Sung to the tune of "Camp Granada")

Hello, Libby?
It's the Demon.
You recall what
We've been schemin'?
Need to come up
To the cabin
Then frame our neighbor so the cops can come and grab him.

Had to call
911 first,
Think I'll hang out
With the searchers,
Look around some,
Maybe party,
See if I can scope out one who's not a smarty.

You know, man,
I've been thinkin',
Since that thing's
No longer stinkin',
We can go a-
head and lose it,
Someplace in the desert...where? Don't know. You choose it.

Know a pal
Who'll come with me,
Pass out flyers
So they won't miss me,
We'll get the "package"
From the cabin,
Dump it where our neighbor's been so they can grab him.

When I tell ya,
You call Bender,
Don't say nothin'
To offend her,
Tell her things are
Lookin' brighter,
That insurance dough will make her conscience lighter.

Let 'em know
Where to find her,
Disguise your voice,
Just a reminder.
Wait 'till after
I can place her
By that big tree near the dump out on Dehesa.

There's a trap
On my phone now
They can tell
Who I call now
But they don't know
What we're sayin',
So if they ask you tell 'em we were only prayin'.

Well, I'm leaving
For the desert.
All this thinking
Makes my head hurt.
Thanks for helpin'
With the cabin.
Okay, I'm off to frame the neighbor so they'll nab him.

710 posted on 07/11/2002 5:56:16 AM PDT by shezza
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To: sbnsd; FresnoDA
"I find this purchase astonishing. If the VDs have split, where is she supposed to get the money to pay for the mortgage (and the real expense--property taxes) on this house, especially since she doesn't work? I can't imagine it'd be completely paid off. Now, I KNOW for a fact that DvD couldn't possibly pull in that kind of money at QCOM."

Someone might have already mentioned this downthread--I'm just now logging on and starting to read.

I would hazard a guess that the money is coming from a book and/or "movie of the week" deal. Back when they were holding fund-raisers news conferences pleading for their daughter's return, Brenda was heard asking someone about who would be the best person to represent them in such a deal. This would have been before the time they found Danielle.

I'm sure they found the public donations helpful, but I don't think those would pay for the BMW and the house--even with the insurance money tossed in, unless she was insured for far, far more than we imagine.

711 posted on 07/11/2002 5:56:32 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: bvw
O 'Reilly is a pompus a$$ ... I have been a fan a long time..he is amusing., but no brain surgeon (just listen to his reasoning some time)
712 posted on 07/11/2002 5:57:57 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: shezza
;) !
713 posted on 07/11/2002 6:00:30 AM PDT by bvw
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To: MizSterious
Good thought..a made for TV movie..sex sells so my guess is it will include lots of exposure for Brenda on the "BOOB tube"
714 posted on 07/11/2002 6:02:06 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: shezza
bravo! side-splitting hilarious
715 posted on 07/11/2002 6:03:00 AM PDT by fnord
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To: pyx
"It may very well end up that I am the wishful thinker in this and be completely wrong about Damon. I just can't conceptualize a father hurting his child like that."

I'm sorry to have to say this, but fathers do kill their daughters, and their sons, and sometimes their wives too. And contrary to popular opinion, they also sometimes toss the bodies in dumps "like so much garbage." In the past 5 years, I've seen two such cases locally--I happen to think that's a very high number, but it could be that it happens with greater frequency even than this in other areas.

In the first case, a little boy was beaten to death, and the father disposed of him by throwing him in an old broken freezer, throwing some dirt on top, and moving to another house--leaving the freezer, the tot, and the odor behind. In the latest case, the father was angry at his wife, and so he beat up his wife, then killed his daughter and threw her in a ditch along with the garbage. He claims it was because he was on meth; I say it was because he's a mean s.o.b. and I hope they throw the book at him.

But yes, fathers kill their children, for any and all reasons, and for no reason at all.

716 posted on 07/11/2002 6:04:13 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: Rheo
Soriano, I think the morning of June20 or 21, talked a bit about the bean bag. Noticed it when I looked up the stuff on the jacket.

on the SanDiego-something site, it was Day 11, IIRC.

Too early, had to click on the time on my computer to see what day of the week it was! Geesh! LOL
717 posted on 07/11/2002 6:06:25 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Rheo
"What cleaning spree?"

Yes, I had to laugh, too--isn't it just flat out amazing that even after the facts are known, some people still cling to the spin, lies and misrepresentations like some kind of lifeline? The "cleaning spree" was debunked, what, months ago at least--first at the PH then during the trial--and still people report it as though it were a fact. Perhaps they have that new learning problem I've been hearing about--transcript reading disorder!

718 posted on 07/11/2002 6:14:05 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
ADD meet TRD.
719 posted on 07/11/2002 6:19:07 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Greg Weston
"Bill's comments tonight just show that some people see through the BS pushed by the Feldman's, Cochrans, Bailey's, Scheck's etc etc."

No, O'Reilly's comments just show his ignorance of the facts. I doubt if he's watched more than five minutes of the trial, and I seriously doubt if he's ever even glanced at the transcripts of the trial or the PH. And your comments show that you'd rather take some ignorant (of this case, anyway) television talking head as gospel instead of looking at the information for yourself. It's the same sort of laziness that gave us Bill Clinton for 8 long years--no one wants to do the work to find out just what the truth is. It's just too easy to swallow the prepared media pablum.

Now, it's also possible to read the transcripts and still come away thinking DW is guilty--but that's an honest disagreement, as opposed to quoting nonsense that's been debunked in the trial as you have been doing.

Cleaning spree my as...terisk. Sheesh!

720 posted on 07/11/2002 6:22:01 AM PDT by MizSterious
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