Astonishing Skull Found in Africa

BBC ^ | 10 July, 2002 | Ivan Noble

[EBUCK]

You mean the Grand canyon that is composed of rock very succeptable to erosion and that just happens to have a river flowing through it? I'll look the other one up tomorrow...

EBUCK

[O Neill]

When man went to the moon who was the head of NASA?

I don't recall. Christopher Craft was a principal flight Controller, I remember that. And the FIRST astronaut was a chimpanzee. Chuck Yeager & many of the test pilots at Edwards AFB at the time didn't think much of the Space Program...'Spam in a can' they called it...'a suicide mission', with no need for the skills of a true Golden-Armed pilot.

With so many tens of thousands contributing to the Moon Shot, it's hard to establish a clear link with 'Creationists' as the sole actors. John Glenn was a Christian, though, and he got the nod for the first full 'orbit' of the Earth flight...DESPITE the fact that his sweet wife, Annie, who had a speech impediment and did NOT want to be on camera, REFUSED to allow POTUS Lyndon Johnson in her home for a 'courtesy visit' (photo op) on the day of the launch! MUCH to the chagrin of the NASA Public Affairs Office, which threatened to YANK Glenn from the flight if he didn't talk some SENSE into his wife!!

[DaveyB]

You mean the Grand canyon that is composed of rock very succeptable to erosion and that just happens to have a river flowing through it?

Yes, and how did that river run uphill to cut out the Canyon?

[carenot]

Or that the people who found it are fools, while those refusing to even consider its existence are really the bright guys. It's fascinating to see this stuff in action.

I keep remembering Immanuel Velikovsky.

Hmmm...

[xJones]

"I knew I would one day find it... I've been looking for 25 years," said Michel Brunet of the University of Poitiers, France.

" I suggest "Bob". Let's call him Bob."

Bob, my flaming rear! This should be called "le froge".

Only one thing, did it have a white flag nearby?

[PatrickHenry]

I keep remembering Immanuel Velikovsky.

I'm sure you do.

[edsheppa]

But you have already assumed million of years of age.

Not exactly. My point was that some kind of intrinsic variability on the order of hundreds of thousands of years aren't significant on much longer time scales. If the intrinsic variability is of the same order as the time scale, then you have a problem.

[tortoise]

Yes, and how did that river run uphill to cut out the Canyon?

Ummm... You do know that the particular region of the US in question shifts quite a bit on a regular basis don't you? The angle and elevation of the land was nothing like what it is now when the river first started cutting a channel. And in fact there is some evidence there that these things changed as the channel was being cut. (Obviously, once the channel is started, the water generally won't leave it, even if it is slightly uphill in places.) That whole swath of the US is very active geologically.

Why do you waste our time with assertions that you could have falsified yourself with rudimentary research?

[carenot]

Might you reasonably hypothesize that there is a blue puzzle piece with a straight edge, maybe behind a baseboard somewhere in your house? And say you're in your attic one day, and lift a box of old magazines and find a blue puzzle piece with the straight edge underneath, might you reasonably conclude that it fits the puzzle near the hole in the sky, probably somewhere along the edge?

Wow!

That is deep, man.

[general_re]

Bob, my flaming rear! This should be called "le froge".

"La grenouille" ;)

[carenot]

No. But that would stop someone from finding some DNA and determining that the fossil was closely related to a ham sandwich.

I am not sure, but I think somewhere I read that people taste like chicken.

[edsheppa]

If I could understand it I might be able to comment on it (just what does it mean that 'a derived "age" has no distinct geological meaning?').

From other reading I've done it seems that there is a great deal of evidence that isochron done carefully gives reliable age estimates. There is no obvious reason, for example, that so many independent age estimates should agree or that they would be consistent with other physical processes.

[socal_parrot]

70's, 80's and 90's pornstar and FReeper Ron Jeremy. Nicknamed "The Hedgehog".

[carenot]

That's also true of the Iliad. So what does that say about Zeus and his thunderbolts?

Well. I just know that when it is raining and the Sun is shining, it means Zeus is beating his wife.

And it will rain tomorrow.

[xJones]

"I knew I would one day find it... I've been looking for 25 years," said Michel Brunet of the University of Poitiers, France.

Scientists say it is the most important discovery in the search for the origins of humankind since the first Australopithecus "ape-man" remains were found in Africa in the 1920s.

Anthropologists find what they want to find, even if they have to make it up.: Piltdowm man.

[carenot]

Is this is every bit as important as the pigs tooth?

Heck no.

I am having a good time on this.

Do you have a link to the pig's tooth?

TIA

[carenot]

Hey! I got it.

I was having such a good time, I didn't bother with someone else doing the same!

[carenot]

I thought you meant Barney Frank.

How dast you?

Just because Barney is a.... never mind.

LOL

[carenot]

At the end of the day, they're all just people, many of whom have an agenda.

I think I used to have an agenda.

But I forgot what it was.

[carenot]

Yes, why reason? We must first presuppose that logic and reason are true. But we cannot see reason; we must believe it to be true. Where did it come from? How about the laws of the universe, how did they get there?

I asked you not to do that!