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Donaldson Brothers TWA800 forum
From: John Fiorentino - 14 January 2001
As the author of a forthcoming book on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy and in my occupation as a Paralegal, having investigated many "conspiracy" theories, it would seem the first step would be to prove conclusively that TWA Flight 800 was IN FACT downed by a missile or missiles. [emphasis yours]

It's obviously long past time for you to practice what you preach and "prove conclusively" that Flight 800 was IN FACT the victim of a suitcase bomb. It should go without saying that if you could have done so by now, you would have.

Only one person has ever supported your daffy suitcase bomb theory.

Yahoo TWA800 forum
From: "reednfolink"
Date: Sat Jul 13, 2002 8:14 pm
Dear Asmodeus/Elmer, First of all, I really appreciate your efforts in getting me kicked off "Free Republic"! Didn't suprise me at all! It was predictable! I don't know whether "you" are a think tank, a propaganda front for the trial lawyers or just a brainwashed SUCKER! Only thing that matters to me is that you are a BACKSTABBING COWARD. I notice quite some time has elapsed since Mr. Fiorentino's post #38, asking you to provide some simple answers re: TWA 800. I asked you the same questions back in March of 2002. Funny, though, that all of my posts were removed by your moderator buddies- only your 100 liner pastes and Rokkes patronizing dribble remains.(for the most part) What other schemes or dirty tricks will Barr/Asmodeus employ to futher his agenda? BEWARE! [emphasis his]

Interestingly, there doesn't appear to be any such member in the Yahoo TWA800 forum. But, of course, any member can post with any name they wish after signing in. You, of course, are a member there. Would you do such a deceitful thing to try to show that you do have some support for your suitcase bomb theory?

By clicking here the readers can see for themselves that you are adept at nice and tidy HTML coding - when you want to be. By clicking here the readers can see for themselves that you don't always want to be neat and tidy with your HTML coding. Interestingly, you included the following in the midst of your supposed review of an official report.

[quote]TOBIN: I was ordered to.......But it was in a very emotional, very frenzied manner, so I inquired as to why.....I was told.......which again flies in the face of my interpretation of whose aircraft this was.......But, so I inquired as to why........And I said, well I'm still missing some critical information, why.......And my response at that point was, well I'm still missing some critical information. Why.........And I was told, yes, we want that overhead bin and I was continued -- told to go find that overhead bin. [end quote]

You conveniently deleted Tobin's repeated references to the fact that the "overhead bin" was reportedly in pristine condition. That's the "critical information" he referred to. A suitcase bomb that detonates in an overhead bin could not leave that overhead bin in pristine condition.

Your paper trail includes abundant evidence that you ask lots of questions but do not answer questions you are asked. When coupled with the fact that you routinely deceitfully spin, distort and fabricate information and answers you receive, you obviously had no constructive purpose in the barrage of questions you included in your last posting here.

Simply put, you have demolished your own credibility as a supposedly "sincere seeker of the truth" - with everybody [except, of course, "reednfolink"]

"It's obviously long past time for you to practice what you preach and "prove conclusively" that Flight 800 was IN FACT the victim of a suitcase bomb. It should go without saying that if you could have done so by now, you would have."

I am STILL waiting for NTSB to PROVE their CWT theory. Seems to me....or....."It should go without saying" that if they could they would have done so by now.

"Only one person has ever supported your daffy suitcase bomb theory."

If I had in fact a "daffy suitcase bomb theory".......

"Interestingly, there doesn't appear to be any such member in the Yahoo TWA800 forum. But, of course, any member can post with any name they wish after signing in. You, of course, are a member there. Would you do such a deceitful thing to try to show that you do have some support for your suitcase bomb theory?"

Well, I never heard of this guy either. The question might be Barr......WOULD YOU DO SUCH A DECEITFUL THING? However, he did send me a personal e-mail first, BEFORE posting on Yahoo, so I suppose we could track that IP address, right Barr?

"Your paper trail includes abundant evidence that you ask lots of questions but do not answer questions you are asked. When coupled with the fact that you routinely deceitfully spin, distort and fabricate information and answers you receive, you obviously had no constructive purpose in the barrage of questions you included in your last posting here."

You are the one who is fabricating things. Just how desperate are you Barr?

"Simply put, you have demolished your own credibility as a supposedly "sincere seeker of the truth" - with everybody [except, of course, "reednfolink"]"

What a rather "hasty" and "unprofessional" conclusion on your part. But then again, you support those kinds of "conclusions" don't you Barr?

Now, why don't you answer the "barrage" of questions I asked you?

Below you will find the results of my, and others investigation into your unfounded allegations.

Yahoo TWA800 forum
From: "reednfolink"
Date: Sat Jul 13, 2002 8:14 pm
Dear Asmodeus/Elmer, First of all, I really appreciate your efforts in getting me kicked off "Free Republic"! Didn't suprise me at all! It was predictable! I don't know whether "you" are a think tank, a propaganda front for the trial lawyers or just a brainwashed SUCKER! Only thing that matters to me is that you are a BACKSTABBING COWARD. I notice quite some time has elapsed since Mr. Fiorentino's post #38, asking you to provide some simple answers re: TWA 800. I asked you the same questions back in March of 2002. Funny, though, that all of my posts were removed by your moderator buddies- only your 100 liner pastes and Rokkes patronizing dribble remains.(for the most part) What other schemes or dirty tricks will Barr/Asmodeus employ to futher his agenda? BEWARE! [emphasis his]

Interestingly, there doesn't appear to be any such member in the Yahoo TWA800 forum. But, of course, any member can post with any name they wish after signing in. You, of course, are a member there. Would you do such a deceitful thing to try to show that you do have some support for your suitcase bomb theory?

Thanx to Jack Seaman, the e-mail nonsense has been solved.

Well, I had originally decided to rise above the shills on Free Republic, and ignore them. Lately, with the 6th anniversary of the downing approaching, I've been lurking more at both forums. While at freerepublic, I went to the archives to retrieve an article I had posted, and found that all MY posts had been removed! The ONLY person I had abused (in jest) was Elmer. I accused him of setting up a gas chamber to exterminate innocent Freepers who took the bait or wandered in- all in jest! So, when I post at another thread, the the suggestion, to a extremely militant Israeli sympathizer (Freeper) that he read Bill Baker's, "Theft of a Nation", Elmer, thinking I'm a threat of sorts, ridicules me openly in the forum. I know NOW that he is very sensitive and probably had me banned. I am so SICK of (along with most of the population) getting a daily scolding from Bnai Brith (sp). Today, I was scolded on how anti- semetic Henry Ford was (on PBS) and how he associated with right wing Christian Fundalmentalists.(sp) This is a steady drum beat I can do with out, I am not a Jew hater. It was just a "heat of the moment thing" please forgive, Regards STEVE

----- Original Message -----
From: John Fiorentino
To: jsreed@knox.net
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 12:14 PM
Subject: e-mail

Did you send me an e-mail msg last night and then post to the TWA800 Yahoo forum?
----- Original Message -----
From: John Fiorentino
To: twa800@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [twa800] Jack Seaman

I believe now, the readers can see through your modus operandi quite clearly.

"Truth is dependent on facts - not speculations, suspicions, allegations or accusations."

Yes, it is..........I suggest you follow your own advice!