A question of faith (China)

CNN Asia ^ | Willy Wo Lap Lam

[maui_hawaii]

A sorely needed discussion.

I also wonder if President Bush is going to do anything about the corporate corruption from our own companies doing business in China? China is not the bastian of honesty and moral cleanliness. In China, "everything is grey." That includes our export laws.

In China, agreements mean something as long as they remain convinient. If 20 lawyers sign the thing, 10 from both sides, and 6 months later the Chinese change their minds, so what about the lawyers.

What about Chinese signing on the line about proliferation, then not delivering?

What about the companies that sell technology in violation of US laws? Does Bush's speech include them?

While certainly the laws have often been changed, but the criminal intent is no less...and that is just the start.

Is it a case of 'when in Rome do as the Romans' or should the companies be held to the same standards no matter where they operate?

These problems infect everything from business to politics.

[maui_hawaii]

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[maui_hawaii]

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[Free the USA]

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[maui_hawaii]

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[weikel]

No way can they be as dishonest as Americans it takes a lifetime of liberal American government schools which stress parroting what the teacher wantsd you to parrot( even if its mostly liberal BS) to ingraine that kind of dishonesty.

[Willie Green]

Interesting.
Perhaps "free trade" WILL defeat communist China -- by unleashing the forces of market corruption!!!

Of course, companies who invested over there will lose their butts in the social upheaval. Just one more reason they should've stayed in America!!!

[maui_hawaii]

No way can they be as dishonest as Americans

Clinton maybe...and a few ENRON execs...

[weikel]

And most American women.

[maui_hawaii]

They don't need social upheaval to lose their butt in China...

Pick the wrong parters, extend credit to the wrong people, trust the legal system, own something someone else wants... more ways than one to lose ones butt in China...

[weikel]

Pick the wrong parters, extend credit to the wrong people, trust the legal system, own something someone else wants

That is true of anywhere( well there could be someplace with a just and comprehensible efficient legal system but I doubt it).

[RightWhale]

When Mao was on his march across the countryside 50 years ago, his army would pause at each village and pay a visit to the recorder's office. They would take the records outdoors and burn them. Deeds, contracts, everything. They would also pull up land survey monuments wherever they found them.

Is it any wonder that they question the validity of documents now?

[maui_hawaii]

The CCP lies to their own people far more than they lie to everyone else. And they tell us some WHOPPERS primarily through half truths, slants, mischaracterizations, and spins...

This is true in regards to Taiwan, as well as how most view the USA also.

[maui_hawaii]

I often hear Chinese talk about 'cultural differences' in discussing why China thinks America is a hegemon, or why they hate Taiwan so much...

That has nothing to do with culture. Thats politics and spin. But definately not culture.

[maui_hawaii]

When the average Chinese person becomes openly, and honestly non partisan, then the issue of Taiwan will be on firm ground to be solved peacefully.

[Lake]

>>But definately not culture.

That's culture. Americans think straightforward, but the Chinese culture is not that explicit and there are things behind words.

[Lake]

>>When the average Chinese person becomes openly, and honestly

The Chinese openly and honestly say they want Taiwan back. It's not a lie, they mean it.

[Lake]

>>They would take the records outdoors and burn them. Deeds, contracts, everything. They would also pull up land survey monuments wherever they found them.

That was land reform.

[RightWhale]

That was land reform.

Expediting the process of cultural evolution.