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CAIR: South Dakota Woman Loses Child After Accepting Islam
Council on American-Islamic Relations press release via PRNewswire ^ | 7/9/02

Posted on 07/09/2002 2:16:02 PM PDT by GeneD

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1 posted on 07/09/2002 2:16:03 PM PDT by GeneD
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To: GeneD
Islam sucks.
2 posted on 07/09/2002 2:17:25 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: GeneD
And here we thought Islam was the religion of peace. Now they endorse the kidnapping of children. Just like you'd see from a CAIR press release. Its the other Islamist front group Robert Mueller hadn't addressed yet.
3 posted on 07/09/2002 2:18:06 PM PDT by goldstategop
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Where is the childs father?

a.cricket
4 posted on 07/09/2002 2:22:43 PM PDT by another cricket
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The fear here might be if she travels to a Muslim country her new husband may be given complete parental rights over her child contrary to any existing priviledges or visitation agreements already agreed upon in the US. The grandparents and the child's biological father could concieveably never see him again.

It doesn't sound like the boy's father is currently in the picture, but this is a press release and who knows what the complete story is at this time.

5 posted on 07/09/2002 2:23:14 PM PDT by Cu Roi
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The one thing that is unclear is whether or not the child is the son of the Egyptian man or not... If he is not, then custody should be given to the natural father and the mother should not be allowed to see the boy unsupervised - otherwise, the boy will probably be kidnapped, and the father will lose all rights to see his son.
6 posted on 07/09/2002 2:24:21 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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Can you show us where in the press release it endorses kidnapping children?
7 posted on 07/09/2002 2:25:23 PM PDT by drjimmy
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the woman's father said she "has engaged in some bizarre behavior, including wearing Muslim garb and declaring herself a Muslim."

I'd be concerned too if my daughter had endangered my grandchild by joining a cult.

8 posted on 07/09/2002 2:27:25 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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concerns about whether this case will be decided based on the best interests of the child

CAIR doesn't care about the best interests of the child - they know that the second they set foot in Egypt, that the mother will never see the child again.

But Islam is the religion of peace....[rolling eyes]

9 posted on 07/09/2002 2:27:37 PM PDT by mhking
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To: GeneD
Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Muslims!

And if Mamas don't have enough sense, let us here 3 big FReeper cheers for Grandmas who DO have enough sense!

And what about their ETERNAL destiny. Don't build no heathen temples, where the Lord's done laid His hand!

10 posted on 07/09/2002 2:27:42 PM PDT by crystalk
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I think if the child were forcibly taken to Egypt you'd know where CAIR stands. As it is what they really object to was the mother's non Muslim parents gained custody of the child. That to the Islamists at CAIR is flat out evidence of Islamophobia.
11 posted on 07/09/2002 2:30:15 PM PDT by goldstategop
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I take it from your reply that you cannot show where in the press release it advocates kidnapping children, as you had claimed.
12 posted on 07/09/2002 2:32:01 PM PDT by drjimmy
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To: GeneD
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) says the woman's parents were granted custody of her five-year-old boy after she converted to Islam, married an Egyptian man and planned to travel to Egypt.

It sounds like the grandparents are trying to prevent a "Not Without My Daughter" situation.

13 posted on 07/09/2002 2:32:55 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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The child is described as blue-eyed, white, and as having an "American" for a biological father.

I think this means that she already had the boy, before she met and married the Egyptian.

America, and South Dakota, have every right to retain the child as an American citizen, and also ethnically, and religiously a Christian, like his four natural grandparents.

Otherwise he will be given to the heathen.

14 posted on 07/09/2002 2:32:59 PM PDT by crystalk
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What I don't understand is why everyone thinks that the man she REMARRIED would want to kidnap her child once they went to Egypt? Stepchildren are not at all favorable to a muslim male.

I would like to hear more about the child's real father before I made any assumptions about this case
15 posted on 07/09/2002 2:36:26 PM PDT by Thoudothprotest
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From the boy's biological father. If he was non Muslim, he'd lose all rights to his own child if the mother travelled with him to Egypt and married an Egyptian man like she planned to. Interesting CAIR doesn't mention him which is just as well, cause if you're not a Muslim, your parental rights are irrelevant.
16 posted on 07/09/2002 2:37:57 PM PDT by goldstategop
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CAIR needs to look at American law. Let's say this woman had done none of these things. Let's say she then got married to a Christian of the exact same denomination as the biological father. Now let's say that the woman decided to move, not to a foreign land, but just out of state.

The father, for sure, and the grandparents, maybe, would STILL have grounds for restraining such behavior, so as to preserve the visiting rights of the father. So while it's pretty clear that no one involved on the father's side much likes Moslems, there's plenty of basis for what's been done without resorting to issues of religious bias.
17 posted on 07/09/2002 2:38:34 PM PDT by RonF
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America and South Dakota, as entities, do not have any "right to retain the child".

What world do you live in? The State has a legal right to your child?

Gimme a break.
18 posted on 07/09/2002 2:46:05 PM PDT by Thoudothprotest
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To: GeneD
Islamophobic

I knew this word was coming!

19 posted on 07/09/2002 2:49:31 PM PDT by SunStar
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Perhaps the court is concerned the mother will strap a dynomite belt to the child.
20 posted on 07/09/2002 2:49:36 PM PDT by What Is Ain't
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