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To: Diamond; RGSpincich; Catspaw; Kevin Curry
Yes, I am. And it's the reason I'm so incensed by this.

My brother's wife--my Sister-in-Law--came from a family who were members of one of these "nondenominational" (read "nonaccountable") churches.

Her little brother who was maybe eight or nine at the time was severely beaten by his father.

Okay, so it was domestic child abuse, right? Wrong.

The PASTOR of their church came to the house and DEMANDED the kid be beaten (I don't even remember why, it's been about eight years), and stood there in the room while the father administered the punishment. The father would pause every now and then and look up at the minister to see if the kid had been "disciplined" enough.

The kid ended up in the hospital, though not in intensive care.

The father was arrested. The parents eventually divorced.

The pastor was untouched by any of it, and went on to lead his "flock" into further mischief, I'm sure.

Also, there are the cases up in New England, several children dying of malnourishment or physical abuse in these little ultra-savage...errrrr...evangelical communes they have up their where all the women have to wear long dresses and can't look their husbands in the face without permission, etc.

And there's also the saga of Brian and Ruth Christine.

Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I'll bet some others like Kevin Curry can come up with more.

73 posted on 07/09/2002 9:34:49 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
I hope your nephew is o.k.

evangelical communes they have up their where all the women have to wear long dresses and can't look their husbands in the face without permission, etc.

Was your sister in an "evangelical commune"?

I've spent some time in evangelical communes. Which ones are the ones where the women can't look their husbands in the face without permission?

77 posted on 07/09/2002 9:40:02 AM PDT by Taliesan
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To: Illbay
If the facts are correct as contained in this article then I too will be outraged. Sometimes they (Self-professed religious types who overstep)starve the devil out of their children and sometimes they beat the devil out. Always abusing the child and always invoking a divine defense.

In this case, I am going to wait a day or two to see what develops.
85 posted on 07/09/2002 9:55:27 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Illbay
I'll bet some others like Kevin Curry can come up with more.

I know of none.

141 posted on 07/09/2002 5:03:03 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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