Posted on 07/08/2002 9:47:41 AM PDT by Fithal the Wise
"There is no single, universally accepted, definition of terrorism. Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “...the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.” (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85)"
The FBI further describes terrorism as either domestic or international, depending on the origin, base, and objectives of the terrorists. For purposes of this report, the FBI will use the following definitions: --Domestic terrorism is the unlawful use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual based and operating entirely within the United States or its territories without foreign direction committed against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives. --International terrorism involves violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any state, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or any state. These acts appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, or affect the conduct of a government by assassination or kidnapping. International terrorist acts occur outside the United States or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to coerce or intimidate, or the locale in which the perpetrators operate or seek asylum."
-- Source: http://www.fbi.gov/publications/terror/terror99.pdf
It seems that you would like the public to forget exactly how the events of 9/11 were planned and executed in this country, with the benefit of lax security, runaway immigration, State Department arrogance and government denial of organizational links between terrorists. I would suggest that a far better way to "manage public fears" is not to bury the facts, but to remedy the problems that lead some to a) distrust the FBI and b)to speculate on the connections of the LAX shooter. Otherwise, "calming public fears" will eventually be an impossibility, no matter how good the PR, or how badly the markets perform.
Death and destruction have a way of cutting through lies and cover-ups, no matter how well-intentioned you believe the smokescreen may be.
Khalid and ALi Mohammed both were indicted for the 1993 WTC bombing and Khalid is known to have been the implemeter of the 9/1l attacks for Bin Laden and Zawahiri (reported in NY TImes by James Risen in mid June 2002).
Khalid Mohammed left the Philippines (shared an apartment with Ramzi Yousef) in early 1995 to come to the US and OKC after his nephew Ramzi Yousef met with Terry Nichols in the Philippines to plan the OKC bombing. Perhaps Khalid met up with Zawahiri and Ali Mohammed in 1995 when they were all in the US in CA at the same time. We know Ali was with Zawahiri in 1995 in CA and that Khalid and Ali worked on the 1993 WTC attack together. I just wrote an article connecting Khalid Mohammed (and likely Ali Mohammed)to the OKC bombing.
Ali Mohammed wrote Bin Ladens terror training manual and when arrested had documents on how to plant explosives in public buildings.
I just wrote an article also connecting ALi Mohammed with Hayadat and Batouty via Ali Mohammeds work for Egypt Air security. Ali Mohammed was also indicted for setting up AlQaeda cells in the US.
Abu Mohammed
Abu Fatima
Are you sure it wasn't 72 Virgins?
A source close to Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Peres' granddaughter was in a different part of the terminal at the time of the attack.
He wasn't a lone gunman. He belongs to a group that wants us dead.
Consumers are not dumb. All that will occur is the credibility of news sources and the FBI will continue to tank.
By this definition then 9/11 wasn't terrorism. Each act was an isolated incident with none of the terrorists having specific knowledge of the others.
I didn't see the Orange County reference, but I have a feeling the Orange County mosques all "radical." None other than the infamous Muzammil Siddiqui -- who attended that videotaped rally in D.C. where he condemned the US for the Palestinian's problems -- is the president of Islamic Society of Orange County.
Siddiqui also spoke at National Cathedral Prayer Service for the 9/11 victims.
Then an attack on Israel on our soil would not meet the above defintion.
To find out when Zawahiri was in the US it would be good if we could fi nd the Wall Street Journal article you referenced in reply #47:
A long front-page article on Ali Mohammed in the Wall Street Journal late last year reported that Zawahiri was in California (I don't remember whether it said in '95 or '98) and was accompanied by Ali Mohammed.
The WSJ article may give the dates of when Ali Mohammed escorted Zawahiri in the US.
Uncle Bill and Wallaby, can you help us out with research on this. You guys are the best at this that I know of.
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