U.S. quietly OKs fetal stem cell work - Bush allows funding despite federal limits on embryo use

Chicago Tribune ^ | July 7, 2002 | By Jeremy Manier

[Jhoffa_]

Since when did babies become state property?

Let me answer your question like this:

Can you kill your child after he or she is born and make that same argument to the judge?

[JMJ333]

Don't you get it? The baby is actually not a real person of its own since the mother carries it in her body. This gives the woman the right to harvest it like a crop if she so wills because her will is sovereign. You've got to love the relativists.

[marajade]

"Would you rather keep abortion the way it is or have each State decide on the matter?"

I personally don't believe abortion is moral for myself and consider it murder... But when you have a situation where women are injuring themselves by performed illegal abortions then there is definitely something wrong with that picture as well... I don't have the answer... Having each state decide would certainly be a start... But since the US Supreme Ct has already opined then I guess that is that...

[marajade]

see my post 83

[Satadru]

Then why did Bush's speech more than an year ago have any significance? If the President cannot cut off any funding, why was it a big deal when Bush authorized funds for stem-cell research using non-aborted tissues last March. I am still confused.

[marajade]

You assume too much about me... that is really sad... see my post 83

[Jhoffa_]

We are IN a WAR now. President Bush is ON our side. The TERRORISTS are on the OTHER side. ... ..

Hey, look if you like Dubya and you don't agree for whatever reason then just say it in so many words.

But by all means, get your soapbox from off the top of the WTC rubble.

It get's old, ya know?

[Keyes For President]

I have NOT made ONE editorial COMMENT on the article which was PRINTED ON THE FRONT PAGE of the CHICAGO TRIBUNE. I have only provided a LINK to the ARTICLE for INFORMATION and DISCUSSION as is COMMON PRACTICE on FREE REPUBLIC.

I know you will understand now because I used plenty of CAPITAL LETTERS.

:-P

[dcwusmc]

I guess I have to get over this masochistic streak that sometimes compels me to respond to your bilge... The dems may be the party of abortion on demand, but WHAT HAVE THE PUBBIES DONE TO REVERSE THE TREND? EVEN WHEN THEY DID HAVE CONTROL OF BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS? Answer: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. They are, at BEST, political cowards. At worst? They are like you and your autoritarian ilk, same as the Dems. In either case, they are BAD FOR THE COUNTRY AND THE CONSTITUTION.

[Jhoffa_]

But when you have a situation where women are injuring themselves by performed illegal abortions then there is definitely something wrong with that picture as well...

Yeah, they are killing their children.

Ghouls.

I don't have the answer...

Obviously..

[Dane]

Then why did Bush's speech more than an year ago have any significance? If the President cannot cut off any funding, why was it a big deal when Bush authorized funds for stem-cell research using non-aborted tissues last March. I am still confused.

Because the media wanted to create a wedge with one issue people like you and Askel. I will trust Bush over the media every second of the day.

[marajade]

And what is your answer?

[dcwusmc]

I HOPE that WORDEE had TONGUE firmly IN cheek and that HE or SHE was KIDDING. And I HOPE that MY use OF CAPS does the SAME trick AS WORDEE's OK?

[JMJ333]

I didn't assume anything. I responded to that feminazi line about it being your body. Here is the reality of the situation: They are creating human beings at the NIH for the express purpose of killing them and then experimenting on them for medical benefits to those already born. They are using my tax dollars to do it.

A) It is never permissable to benfit from evil. And that is exactly what those who use the treatments from these experiments are doing.

B) I find it morally reprehensible that 1 penny of my money would go toward said evil.

Concrete truths exists. Recognize them and fight for what is right. And ESCR isn't right.

[Dane]

WHAT HAVE THE PUBBIES DONE TO REVERSE THE TREND? EVEN WHEN THEY DID HAVE CONTROL OF BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS? Answer: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Uh they had clinton veto every partial birth abortion ban that was sent up to his desk while clinton was getting lewinskied in the oval office.

Bush was in office for 5 months when jeffords jumped and handed the reins of power of the Senate to dashole.

Your intentional ignorance is showing again.

[marajade]

I believe that only God can create life... Any stem cell research as to date are souless...

[JMJ333]

I must disagree. When conception occurs you have a human being. All human beings--even ones created artifically--have souls. To say that they don't reduces them and plays into the "its only a blastocyst" crowd.

These innocent and defenseless human beings have instrinsic dingity and value!

[nsmart]

I lost my hearing in one ear in 1994. I gave the research community 10 years to figure out how to get my auditory nerve to regenerate. It was really a bet with myself... but it is surely being slowed by idiots who think stem cell research is somehow WRONG! Geez!

[JMJ333]

I see, so it is okay that a human being is created and then killed and researched on so that you can benefit. That is disgusting and vile.

[marajade]

"All human beings--even ones created artifically--have souls."

That hasn't been scientifically proven yet has it?