Posted on 07/07/2002 9:31:51 AM PDT by Spiff
(Sierra Vista, AZ) Reports from unnamed informants within the U.S. Border Patrol describe an incident which occurred on July 2nd at a checkpoint 20 miles north of the U.S.-Mexico border. Sources say that a number of illegals were spotted by Border Patrol agents moving through the desert in an apparent attempt to go around a permanent checkpoint located on State Route 90 just 12 miles north of Sierra Vista, Arizona. It was surmised by the agents that these illegals had been dropped off from a smuggler’s vehicle a few miles south of the checkpoint and were going to meet back up with the smuggler vehicle a few miles north after circumventing the checkpoint. From there, the illegals would have been driven to Interstate Highway 10 and taken to points unknown. This sort of activity is a common occurrence at this checkpoint.
The illegals were apprehended by the Border Patrol and taken into custody. It was determined that among the group was one Yemeni national and several Mexicans. When questioned, the Yemeni national said that he had been among a group of six Yemenis who had earlier crossed the border together. The report of the five additional Yemeni intruders caused the Border Patrol to dispatch a helicopter from Tucson (approximately 70 miles northwest) to the checkpoint. In addition, it is reported that U.S. Customs dispatched a helicopter to the area of the apprehension to conduct a search from the air. The Yemenis were not found and may still be at large. Sources say that the FBI was notified but that the level of FBI interest and/or involvement is not known at this time.
These same sources report that U.S. Border Patrol Agent in charge of the Tucson Sector, David Aguilar, has ordered his agents to keep quiet about this incident. Reportedly, Aguilar has issued several such gag orders recently – demanding that Border Patrol agents keep quiet about happenings along the border. In June, Aguilar spoke at the annual convention of the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) and told of the government’s humanitarian responsibility to protect Mexican citizens who are illegally crossing into the United States (See Washington Times - June 27). As evidence of Aguilar’s confusion about the Border Patrol’s mission, he recently redeployed his agents away from the border itself and has instead deployed them into the larger desert areas to rescue illegals found to be in distress. It is also reported that Aguilar has ridiculously attempted to explain away the trails of footprints, garbage, and trail markings left by the hordes of illegals crossing through private, state, and federal lands as instead being evidence of the area’s new popularity to hikers and campers because of the success of the Border Patrol at apprehending and stopping the illegals.
I don't think you're quite getting the hang of this yet. Can I suggest lurking for a couple of years?
It should be fairly clear that the Democratic Party which is primarily supported by enhanced immigration and the Republican Party which seems to see no evil within the Royal Saudi Family, must step aside for us to effectively fight this war.
Anyone who doesn't believe that it is really ought to come see for themselves, the last time I went through the border check a couple weeks ago when they were supposedly on some kind of alert, they weren't checking anyone at all. Very few cars get checked at the original border still because we don't want to inconvenience shoppers or people coming to use our hospitals or schools.
Anyway, as we get ever more Freepers there will (I believe) start to be more and more of them that take the personal iniative to go out and ask questions, find out little details, use their sources in the police/military etc to put out some good hard news that people wouldn't be able to get anywhere else.
There's no reason why this site couldn't function in much the same way Drudge does- Matt finds the news and posts links to its source and gets people to go there by writing catchy little headlines. He doesn't have to file a report himself on a dailly basis, but when he does get some juicy tidbit, he already has the mechanism to get it out there.
Free Republic is only one small step away from this- reporting and posting versus just posting and commenting. Heck, we have "correspondants" all over the nation and all over the world- literally. We've had first hand accounts from Jerusalem and I can't help but think about the minute by minute 9/11 threads.
Also, there's a lot of really articulate Freepers who like to write op-eds- JohnHuangII for example- and quite a few Freepers with military experience who could offer lots of good view points on the war. We also have already some level of contact with people like Matt Drudge (he lurks) Ann Coulter and others (Barbara Olsen was a Freeper). I believe Free Republic has all the tools at its disposal to evolve into a complete news source.
Nope- they can't be in the same league because Free Republic isn't the same thing. We are a forum- they are news sources and at least one of them is considered "credible". I was just pointing out that it is a bit of a useless excercise to complain about the rumor like nature of a story on an online forum and that the "credible media" already do operate this way. I guess it's like comparing apples and oranges- we're not into journalism (yet) so it is useless to hold us to their standards. If we were in the business of journalism, Spiff's piece would be no less dubious than this morning's screamer from the Guardian but would also be open to much criticism regarding the nature and reliability of the sources. Spiff's story is a "take it for what it's worth" thing.
A trip to joycamp may be in order. Perhaps, nothing short of Room 101 will do.
"Islam is Peace" and "Mexico is out best friend." It's all so clear to me now.
Good Sabertooth. BB was becoming concerned. You know BB is well aware of all the things that concern you, and despite what you may have heard from unpersons, is curtailing crimethink through crimestop throughout Oceania.
Lying maroon is exactly right. What campers and hikers? Just try to go camping or hiking down here in southern Arizona. Due to the extreme fire conditions in this state, just about every imaginable camping and hiking area (state, federal, or private) is closed down tight. Even the access roads are barricaded off.
And it wasn't hikers and campers that started the two major wildfires (Oversite and Ryan) that we had down here. They were started by illegals. One of those fires shut down Fort Huachuca (an important Army installation) for at least one day.
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nj.com | 5/22/02 | The Associated Press
TRENTON, N.J. (AP) -- Two Egyptian men allegedly took part in a plot to smuggle Middle Eastern immigrants into New Jersey by way of Mexico, according to federal authorities. Adel R. Nasr, 22, of Hamilton, and his brother, Gamal Abdalgalil Nasr, 22, of Queens, N.Y., were charged Tuesday with aiding or abetting a scheme to bring undocumented aliens into the United States.
Ernestine Fobbs, a spokeswoman for the Immigration and Naturalization Service, told The Record of Hackensack that the pair had been arrested for immigration violations, but she declined to comment further.
Court documents unsealed late Tuesday claim the men worked with an unidentified Egyptian national based in Guatemala. The ring allegedly helped "large numbers" of illegal immigrants by flying them on tourist visas from Egypt and the Middle East to Brazil, then to Guatemala and Mexico before being taken over the southwest U.S. border.
The immigrants were each charged $8,000, according to the court documents.
Some of the planning for one phase of the smuggling operation unfolded last month inside Adel Nasr's apartment in Mercer County, court documents said. A Queens apartment allegedly used in the scheme also has been under FBI surveillance for the past week.
Many of those who were smuggled by the group come from or have contacts in the Egyptian town of Bata, an impoverished community 20 miles north of Cairo, the documents stated. Some of the immigrants have been captured by U.S. Border Patrol agents, officials said.
Thanks for bringing this to us.
Ditto to Doug & Thanks to Spiff
Perhaps you can help me out here by letting me in on what the "hang of it" is, because Prodigal Son says,
"we're not into journalism (yet) so it is useless to hold us to their standards. If we were in the business of journalism, Spiff's piece would be no less dubious than this morning's screamer from the Guardian but would also be open to much criticism regarding the nature and reliability of the sources. Spiff's story is a "take it for what it's worth" thing.
So, criticism and mentioning one's "take" on what's posted here isn't "the hang of it"? And what standards aren't we supposed to be held to?
LOL! I think so.
No, we just have to continue looking the other way, when they steal them. Car theft and car-jacking are a couple more jobs that there aren't enough Americans to do. ;^)
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