Posted on 07/07/2002 9:31:51 AM PDT by Spiff
I don't think you're quite getting the hang of this yet. Can I suggest lurking for a couple of years?
It should be fairly clear that the Democratic Party which is primarily supported by enhanced immigration and the Republican Party which seems to see no evil within the Royal Saudi Family, must step aside for us to effectively fight this war.
Anyone who doesn't believe that it is really ought to come see for themselves, the last time I went through the border check a couple weeks ago when they were supposedly on some kind of alert, they weren't checking anyone at all. Very few cars get checked at the original border still because we don't want to inconvenience shoppers or people coming to use our hospitals or schools.
Anyway, as we get ever more Freepers there will (I believe) start to be more and more of them that take the personal iniative to go out and ask questions, find out little details, use their sources in the police/military etc to put out some good hard news that people wouldn't be able to get anywhere else.
There's no reason why this site couldn't function in much the same way Drudge does- Matt finds the news and posts links to its source and gets people to go there by writing catchy little headlines. He doesn't have to file a report himself on a dailly basis, but when he does get some juicy tidbit, he already has the mechanism to get it out there.
Free Republic is only one small step away from this- reporting and posting versus just posting and commenting. Heck, we have "correspondants" all over the nation and all over the world- literally. We've had first hand accounts from Jerusalem and I can't help but think about the minute by minute 9/11 threads.
Also, there's a lot of really articulate Freepers who like to write op-eds- JohnHuangII for example- and quite a few Freepers with military experience who could offer lots of good view points on the war. We also have already some level of contact with people like Matt Drudge (he lurks) Ann Coulter and others (Barbara Olsen was a Freeper). I believe Free Republic has all the tools at its disposal to evolve into a complete news source.
Nope- they can't be in the same league because Free Republic isn't the same thing. We are a forum- they are news sources and at least one of them is considered "credible". I was just pointing out that it is a bit of a useless excercise to complain about the rumor like nature of a story on an online forum and that the "credible media" already do operate this way. I guess it's like comparing apples and oranges- we're not into journalism (yet) so it is useless to hold us to their standards. If we were in the business of journalism, Spiff's piece would be no less dubious than this morning's screamer from the Guardian but would also be open to much criticism regarding the nature and reliability of the sources. Spiff's story is a "take it for what it's worth" thing.
A trip to joycamp may be in order. Perhaps, nothing short of Room 101 will do.
"Islam is Peace" and "Mexico is out best friend." It's all so clear to me now.
Good Sabertooth. BB was becoming concerned. You know BB is well aware of all the things that concern you, and despite what you may have heard from unpersons, is curtailing crimethink through crimestop throughout Oceania.
Lying maroon is exactly right. What campers and hikers? Just try to go camping or hiking down here in southern Arizona. Due to the extreme fire conditions in this state, just about every imaginable camping and hiking area (state, federal, or private) is closed down tight. Even the access roads are barricaded off.
And it wasn't hikers and campers that started the two major wildfires (Oversite and Ryan) that we had down here. They were started by illegals. One of those fires shut down Fort Huachuca (an important Army installation) for at least one day.
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nj.com | 5/22/02 | The Associated Press
TRENTON, N.J. (AP) -- Two Egyptian men allegedly took part in a plot to smuggle Middle Eastern immigrants into New Jersey by way of Mexico, according to federal authorities. Adel R. Nasr, 22, of Hamilton, and his brother, Gamal Abdalgalil Nasr, 22, of Queens, N.Y., were charged Tuesday with aiding or abetting a scheme to bring undocumented aliens into the United States.
Ernestine Fobbs, a spokeswoman for the Immigration and Naturalization Service, told The Record of Hackensack that the pair had been arrested for immigration violations, but she declined to comment further.
Court documents unsealed late Tuesday claim the men worked with an unidentified Egyptian national based in Guatemala. The ring allegedly helped "large numbers" of illegal immigrants by flying them on tourist visas from Egypt and the Middle East to Brazil, then to Guatemala and Mexico before being taken over the southwest U.S. border.
The immigrants were each charged $8,000, according to the court documents.
Some of the planning for one phase of the smuggling operation unfolded last month inside Adel Nasr's apartment in Mercer County, court documents said. A Queens apartment allegedly used in the scheme also has been under FBI surveillance for the past week.
Many of those who were smuggled by the group come from or have contacts in the Egyptian town of Bata, an impoverished community 20 miles north of Cairo, the documents stated. Some of the immigrants have been captured by U.S. Border Patrol agents, officials said.
Thanks for bringing this to us.
Ditto to Doug & Thanks to Spiff
Perhaps you can help me out here by letting me in on what the "hang of it" is, because Prodigal Son says,
"we're not into journalism (yet) so it is useless to hold us to their standards. If we were in the business of journalism, Spiff's piece would be no less dubious than this morning's screamer from the Guardian but would also be open to much criticism regarding the nature and reliability of the sources. Spiff's story is a "take it for what it's worth" thing.
So, criticism and mentioning one's "take" on what's posted here isn't "the hang of it"? And what standards aren't we supposed to be held to?
LOL! I think so.
No, we just have to continue looking the other way, when they steal them. Car theft and car-jacking are a couple more jobs that there aren't enough Americans to do. ;^)
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